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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 18, 2013 7:40:39 GMT -5
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Post by Decatur on Sept 18, 2013 7:51:04 GMT -5
I heard that this AM! They're fools for saying anything!
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Post by swilk on Sept 18, 2013 7:59:10 GMT -5
We shall see .... it all comes down to profits. If they tick up a bit or stay the same then SB will learn that their anti gun customers are more valuable to them.
If they drop a little or a bunch they will be forced to reverse policy and ask for forgiveness.
Im gonna guess that their bottom line will not change much, if any, and that their company will continue to run as it has in the past.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 18, 2013 8:46:51 GMT -5
I recall that Starbucks went through a mess with anti-gunners as well as "open carry" gunners. They became the middle ground for differing political agendas. I can see where they would not want to be in that position - but I thought all that had died down and now Starbucks is starting the whole mess all over again..
I don't care for their over priced coffee anywho..
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 18, 2013 11:00:30 GMT -5
I've been in two of their locations, one in Vegas in the hotel we were staying at the time, for a pricey morning coffee that impressed neither the wife or me, and one here in Indiana when we were taking a coffee break from a lengthy IBA meeting, some years ago. Several us of walked over to a nearby Starbucks and got in line, but while looking at the menu and price list, I recalled seeing a gas station sign at the end of the block, and decided I could likely find something more to my tastes there without waiting....and at a fraction of the price.
I was back at the meeting table before the others, despite the extra block of walking, with a HUGE coffee, finishing a perfectly satisfactory doughnut, when the others got back, with a few nursing the remains of their smaller cups.
Don't think the gas station employees would have said anything about it if I'd had a Thompson hanging from my neck and a .Colt on my belt.
Casey's is my stop of choice these days, but I'm sure there are some others out there as good.
Did almost stop by the Starbucks we now have here in Martinsville when they came out for allowing open carry in their stores wherever legal, but didn't get around to it....guess now I can quit feeling guilty and continue to get my morning coffee and doughnut at the establishment of my choice.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Sept 18, 2013 12:09:25 GMT -5
Never been to 1 and don't plan to.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 18, 2013 14:49:01 GMT -5
I thought that I quit going there because I lost all my money, but this must have been the real reason. LOL ...subconsciously I must have known. LOL
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 18, 2013 19:01:37 GMT -5
I've been in two of their locations, one in Vegas in the hotel we were staying at the time, for a pricey morning coffee that impressed neither the wife or me, and one here in Indiana when we were taking a coffee break from a lengthy IBA meeting, some years ago. Several us of walked over to a nearby Starbucks and got in line, but while looking at the menu and price list, I recalled seeing a gas station sign at the end of the block, and decided I could likely find something more to my tastes there without waiting....and at a fraction of the price. I was back at the meeting table before the others, despite the extra block of walking, with a HUGE coffee, finishing a perfectly satisfactory doughnut, when the others got back, with a few nursing the remains of their smaller cups. Don't think the gas station employees would have said anything about it if I'd had a Thompson hanging from my neck and a .Colt on my belt. Casey's is my stop of choice these days, but I'm sure there are some others out there as good. Did almost stop by the Starbucks we now have here in Martinsville when they came out for allowing open carry in their stores wherever legal, but didn't get around to it....guess now I can quit feeling guilty and continue to get my morning coffee and doughnut at the establishment of my choice. I like Martintucky folks. I have had several friends from there, but don't get there very often now. It's a nice town. I have been to that Starbucks several times when I ran a Bible study group there. I never did like all the sissy stuff in my coffee. I like my coffee strong and black like I imagine the old cowboys liking it. I would get a Venti bold with a shot of expresso. Wow, now that's what I call a cup of coffee. |
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 19, 2013 4:29:06 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Sept 19, 2013 5:52:34 GMT -5
"Ummm...Can I get a mocha soy latte with an extra dose of unreasonableness?" Nothing advertises "Free "Sheep" to the "Wolves" better than a no firearms allowed sign. No firearms often means no "Sheepdogs".
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 19, 2013 7:13:42 GMT -5
So what has changed?
Under the change, baristas and other store employees will not ask customers who come in with guns in holsters, say, to leave or confront them in any way, Mr. Schultz said. No signs explaining the policy will be posted in Starbucks stores, either.
“We are going to serve them as we would serve anyone else,” he said. “There are going to be people on both sides who will be disappointed or angry, but we’re making a decision we think is in the best interests of our customers, employees and the company.” He said store officials would evaluate compliance over time and consider posting signs if necessary.
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Post by parson on Sept 19, 2013 8:17:34 GMT -5
Someone gave us a gift card one- that's the only time that I was in one. Had a slap-a-reno, or some such sissy sounding sounding thing.
On the bright side, we will no longer have to be concerned with the thugs and bangers coming in armed!
Ain't rules great?
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 20, 2013 12:00:19 GMT -5
Jon, I also enjoyed many of the fully doctored-up drinks that had some coffee in them that became available in gas stations everywhere in the last twenty years or so, but for my regular morning coffee with breakfast, I prefer black and "full-flavored" myself.
Best I've run into so far is the Folgers' Gourmet Black Silk in the K-cups using the Keurig coffeemaker the kids got us a few years ago. I like a twelve ounce coffee, and that blend has enough strength to still be very good IMO even when diluted to fill the larger mug. My tiny daughter-in-law is the sweetest and quietest person I've ever known, but she likes the same coffee, only she drinks it in an eight-ounce cup, makig it about half again the strength of mine....says that strength is the best she's found! Kinda like finding John Wayne liked a mild white clover tea, only different! 8^)
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 20, 2013 16:05:13 GMT -5
Jon, I also enjoyed many of the fully doctored-up drinks that had some coffee in them that became available in gas stations everywhere in the last twenty years or so, but for my regular morning coffee with breakfast, I prefer black and "full-flavored" myself. Best I've run into so far is the Folgers' Gourmet Black Silk in the K-cups using the Keurig coffeemaker the kids got us a few years ago. I like a twelve ounce coffee, and that blend has enough strength to still be very good IMO even when diluted to fill the larger mug. My tiny daughter-in-law is the sweetest and quietest person I've ever known, but she likes the same coffee, only she drinks it in an eight-ounce cup, makig it about half again the strength of mine....says that strength is the best she's found! Kinda like finding John Wayne liked a mild white clover tea, only different! 8^) I'm a fairly easy going guy, but I'm particular about my coffee. I'm drinking a mug of it right now, yum yum. That was a nice gift from your kids! ...better than a tie.  Well, I guess one doesn't have to be a cowboy to like good coffee if your daughter-in-law likes it. I'm not sure that they make many like this anymore. I raise my cup to you Russ. |
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Post by kevin1 on Sept 21, 2013 15:53:44 GMT -5
I won't go into any SB type place due to their snobby attitude, and their outrageous prices. I also feel no need to learn a second language just to order a cup of Joe. Barista? That sounds like a three dollar way of saying "I couldn't get a real job." They could all disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't even notice.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 21, 2013 16:57:00 GMT -5
I won't go into any SB type place due to their snobby attitude, and their outrageous prices. I also feel no need to learn a second language just to order a cup of Joe. Barista? That sounds like a three dollar way of saying "I couldn't get a real job." They could all disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't even notice. LOL this is funny Kevin. I've never run into the snobby ones at SB, but the attitude that you mentioned is a big reason that I've never been to France. I have only heard, but it was enough to keep me away when I was in Europe. It may be an unfair opinion on my part, but I don't trust myself. I would more than likely end up in jail. Bullies and snobby people are the same to me. I'll pop them if I have to, even though I'm getting too old for it. This so contradicts my faith, but everyone has their weaknesses. |
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 23, 2013 8:07:42 GMT -5
Might think about de-caf, "mellow one", 8^)
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 23, 2013 10:37:23 GMT -5
Might think about de-caf, "mellow one", 8^) LOL, that's good Russ. Yep, I'm not so bad now that I'm old, but I'd go at it with a bully in a heartbeat ...snobbies fit right up there with them to me. I've always been protective of my little sister, and I guess this is where it all started. I really am mellow now ...unless I see someone bullying the disadvantaged. ...but I bet you'd do the same, yes? |
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 24, 2013 12:17:35 GMT -5
Nope. Too old and decrepit for scuffles now. They'd be short and wouldn't likely end the right way.
Have to decide between calling 911 and letting my friend Bill Ruger settle the arguments these days if they get to that stage.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 24, 2013 12:35:30 GMT -5
Nope. Too old and decrepit for scuffles now. They'd be short and wouldn't likely end the right way. Have to decide between calling 911 and letting my friend Bill Ruger settle the arguments these days if they get to that stage. I've gotta find me a friend like Bill.  I'll just sit back and cheer him on.  Okay Russ, it's time for another story: Several summers ago, my daughter and I visited a large midwest amusement park and took her little friend. My daughter and her friend wanted to ride a monstrous beast of a coaster. After getting them in line, I saw a shaded bench calling my name, and chose to accept its offer as did other old dudes sporting black socks and sneakers. No, I wasn't afraid to ride the thriller coaster. It’s just that shaded benches thrill an old guy like the wild rides of our youth. Oh, the shape of those wooden slats fit my curved back perfectly. I had a large swirled ice cream cone in one hand and a cup of Starbucks venti bold with shot of espresso in the other. I was so excited that I needed a seatbelt on that bench. While basking in the bliss of old foggieness, just in front of me, I saw three guys in their early 20s, harassing a young man and his girlfriend. I couldn’t grasp the interaction, but I knew they were up to no good. They let the couple go without incident. I continued to watch the hoods as they approached a group of teenagers. There must have been at least a dozen white teenage girls and one African American teenage boy. I figured it was a church youth group outing. I could not hear what the hoods were saying to the kids, but it was obviously unwanted. As the group walked away, the young boy yells out in brave condemnation, "That's a fine way for adults to act!" These were fighting words to the hoods. As they ran towards the boy, they were pulling off their shirts getting ready to rumble. They ran up to the young man and got in his face. I could not stay seated on that shaded bench even though it was a premo spot. I ran towards the group. As I approached, while making eye contact, I pointed at the biggest of the three, and told him that this was not going to happen, and to get his friends and leave. I jumped between the boy and the hoods and ordered them leave. The hoods walked away. I was surprised not to see a group of cane wheedling old guys behind me. I thought they had my back. I don’t know what happened to my ice cream and coffee. By this time, I'd forgotten all about my daughter and her friend when I heard them running my direction calling me, "Dad! Dad! What are you doing?  " They scolded me. I told them, and they told me not to do that anymore. I'm not sure if they were concerned for my safety or their ride home. I didn't think twice about helping this young boy. I know these hoods could have made easy work of me, but it never entered my mind to not get involved. My safety was never a concern. I just could not let these bullies hurt this young man, even though I think he would have given them a good fight. So, I guess that I don't even have to know someone, much less love them, to want to protect them. I can't stand bullies, or people who prey on the weak. I get angry that people are reluctant to get involved. Obviously, I do not go out looking for this type of excitement. I'm old now, and would love to see someone else take over, but the way I look at it is that God puts us in places at specific times to help others (circumstances). If I had time to think twice about it, I’m not sure that I would do it. My face is ugly enough as it is; I don’t need any disfiguring injuries to enhance it. But when something happens so quickly that I only have to react, I believe that God has put me there, and fear does not exist. For a purpose, God has given me this protective nature. Soon, I'll be walking with a cane and possibly wearing black socks with sneakers ...naaaaah. However, I don't think I'll ever stop protecting the weak, and disadvantaged, even when I do fit this description as long as the Father goes before me. |
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