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Post by 36fan on Oct 4, 2013 22:06:02 GMT -5
Well congratulations!!! I'm so happy for you! I felt bad giving up the New Pal land; I was going to take you and predator hunter there. I feel so much better seeing this post. Wow man, what a story. I would have been a nervous wreck. I panic when I see them suffer; I just can't stand to see anything in pain. So, I'm guessing that one isn't allowed to shoot it to finish it off??? I haven't been carrying my handgun anyway, or I may have shot him. I don't want a ticket, so I guess I'll carry a #6 iron just in case. I'm just so happy for you! Hey, I'd like to come over to help you process him. I need experience. The land I'm hunting the owner has made it clear it is bow only and if he hears any gunshots he will us off, so I don't carry while on his land. Technically it would be illegal to finish one off with a firearm while not in firearm season. It would be up to the discretion of the officer if you were caught. If you were ticketed, you could always take it to court and plead your case to the judge. Another option would have been to try to slit his throat. I decided this was not a good option since he still had control of his front legs. I need to post the picture of the "crop circle" he left. You should have come over today. Normally I like to let them hang for about a week, but it was just too hot. I had him hanging in the garage until my kids got home (with 3 one gallon jugs of ice in the body cavity) so they could see him, then we quartered him out and chunked off the meat for grinding. We still have some processing to do, but the part you were probably most interested in is done. I'm not sure when we will finish processing him - maybe Sunday. If you are still interested in helping, I'll let you know.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 4, 2013 22:12:15 GMT -5
Here's the crop circle he left:
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 4, 2013 22:33:53 GMT -5
Another option would have been to try to slit his throat. I decided this was not a good option since he still had control of his front legs. I need to post the picture of the "crop circle" he left. You should have come over today. Normally I like to let them hang for about a week, but it was just too hot. I had him hanging in the garage until my kids got home (with 3 one gallon jugs of ice in the body cavity) so they could see him, then we quartered him out and chunked off the meat for grinding. We still have some processing to do, but the part you were probably most interested in is done. I'm not sure when we will finish processing him - maybe Sunday. If you are still interested in helping, I'll let you know. I know that I don't have a clue how strong these animals are and how they could hurt a person, but I'm sure you made a good choice. In my panic filled mind, I would have wanted to tackle it and cut it's throat, but ...no. I've seen how animals will spin when injured a certain way. I hit my dog in the head with a #7 iron full swing. She ran to the ball just as I would have hit it. She squalled and spun in a jerking spin. Oh, it still hurts me today to think about it. Sure, I'd like to help do anything. I like to help. Hey, I have a dominate left eye and shoot a pistol mostly looking with it even if both eyes are open, but with a long gun I look through my right eye. I'm right handed. I'm all messed up. Let me know when you decide to finish processing it. I know that I'll be busy all day tomorrow with duck blinds and the misses, but I might be able to Sunday. That crop circle is amazing!
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 6, 2013 9:18:12 GMT -5
Congratulations!
We all strive for one-shot kills, but in the real world that doesn't always happen. Nor do finishing-shots always go as planned. We get in a hurry to end the animal's suffering and often bungle the shot. I remember a similar situation many years ago in the late 90's where I'd spine shot a deer with a bow. It flopped around so much that I never could get a second arrow where I wanted it. My quiver empty, I was forced to climb down out of my stand, walk to the flopping deer, PULL AN ARROW FROM IT to nock again, and finish it off at pointblank range. It was far from my proudest moment.
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Post by raporter on Oct 6, 2013 9:26:03 GMT -5
Congrats.
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 6, 2013 10:02:40 GMT -5
Congrats!
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Post by onhopr12 on Oct 6, 2013 15:24:03 GMT -5
Good and thanx for a good decent buck pic. A lot of successful hunters seem to be supplying picture shy when the first bucks of the season of over a 160" are posted. Where many hunters hunt in their given area a four pt or scraggly 5 or 6 pt might be the dominant buck like on public land where a buck of a life time might only be a under 100" eight pt and a lot harder to hunt. He might have did a little jumping of the string also with the first shot then just excitement on the follow up shots. Do you put yardage markers in the ground, like just a stick every ten paces on different angles of your shooting spectrum. Looks like your grilling 36fan.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 6, 2013 16:18:12 GMT -5
Congratulations.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 6, 2013 20:03:42 GMT -5
Thanks all. Jon Snow helped me finishing processing him; now is in the big white box! Good and thanx for a good decent buck pic. A lot of successful hunters seem to be supplying picture shy when the first bucks of the season of over a 160" are posted. Where many hunters hunt in their given area a four pt or scraggly 5 or 6 pt might be the dominant buck like on public land where a buck of a life time might only be a under 100" eight pt and a lot harder to hunt. He might have did a little jumping of the string also with the first shot then just excitement on the follow up shots. Do you put yardage markers in the ground, like just a stick every ten paces on different angles of your shooting spectrum. Looks like your grilling 36fan. I had trees identified in the woods for yardage markers; however, he came into my lane in the beanfield directly in front of me. After the crop is harvested I put sticks, rocks, or something in the field to identify distance. Since the crop was still in, I didn't have markers out. I think I slightly overestimated his distance because I overestimated his size. In all of the excitement I forgot to use the rangefinder to find the exact distance, which is probably about 25 yds, and I estimated it at 30 yds. That 5 yds is right where my arrow starts dropping. He didn't jump the string - he didn't even flintch until the arrow hit, and dropped straight down.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 6, 2013 20:06:44 GMT -5
Congratulations! We all strive for one-shot kills, but in the real world that doesn't always happen. Nor do finishing-shots always go as planned. We get in a hurry to end the animal's suffering and often bungle the shot. I remember a similar situation many years ago in the late 90's where I'd spine shot a deer with a bow. It flopped around so much that I never could get a second arrow where I wanted it. My quiver empty, I was forced to climb down out of my stand, walk to the flopping deer, PULL AN ARROW FROM IT to nock again, and finish it off at pointblank range. It was far from my proudest moment. Ouch. I'm glad I didn't to pull arrows to reuse ... but I was only 1 shot away from having to.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 8, 2013 20:45:32 GMT -5
I went out and shot my bow today, the first time since I spine shot the buck. It hit about 6-8 inches high at 30 yds-I actually shot over the top of my 3D deer target. I got it sighted back today. Left/right was fine, but vertical was really messed up.
Would the string catching my harness screw the tuning/aim up? I've been practicing with it a lot, and I'm at a loss at what happened.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 9, 2013 4:43:45 GMT -5
Wow; getting an arrow out of a kicking deer, that had to get your attention.
I don't know but like I said in another thread I had the same thing happen this summer, no idea why it started shooting high. My one thought is could it be the string? Mine is getting to the point where I was going to replace it this summer until I got the wild hair about changing to traditional after the season. I decided to hunt the season the way it is then put it up.
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Post by joeyb on Oct 9, 2013 11:51:46 GMT -5
Well congratulations!!! I'm so happy for you! I felt bad giving up the New Pal land; I was going to take you and predator hunter there. I feel so much better seeing this post. Wow man, what a story. I would have been a nervous wreck. I panic when I see them suffer; I just can't stand to see anything in pain. So, I'm guessing that one isn't allowed to shoot it to finish it off??? I haven't been carrying my handgun anyway, or I may have shot him. I don't want a ticket, so I guess I'll carry a #6 iron just in case. I'm just so happy for you! Hey, I'd like to come over to help you process him. I need experience. -I hear ya on the pain thing, but keep in mind prey animals don't feel pain the same way we do. Predators typically do, but prey animals feel fear over the traditional sense of pain. That's why they run like a bat out of He** when they get shot, otherwise they'd lay down in cry with an arrow through their organs. I know the feeling of seeing something suffer though, and best course of action is to end the suffering. However, I have to remind myself sometimes that it's not feeling it like we would. Just a thought to keep in the back of your mind. Congrats 36Fan!
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Post by onhopr12 on Oct 9, 2013 12:25:12 GMT -5
Would the string catching my harness screw the tuning/aim up? I've been practicing with it a lot, and I'm at a loss at what happened.
Anytime the bowstring touches anything it will effect the shot. Use full length arm guards, keep the shirt pocket flap over the button, bill of the cap away, and whatever else could possibly touch the bow string.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 9, 2013 12:28:02 GMT -5
-I hear ya on the pain thing, but keep in mind prey animals don't feel pain the same way we do. Predators typically do, but prey animals feel fear over the traditional sense of pain. That's why they run like a bat out of He** when they get shot, otherwise they'd lay down in cry with an arrow through their organs. I know the feeling of seeing something suffer though, and best course of action is to end the suffering. However, I have to remind myself sometimes that it's not feeling it like we would. Just a thought to keep in the back of your mind. Congrats 36Fan! Well joey, I appreciate this information. It does make me feel better with this in mind. I use to have frogs in my little pond. I bought some and caught some. One big frog got hung up in my net, and he screamed like I'd never heard them scream. I quickly freed him into my bucket, but I almost let him go. I thought that I was hurting him, but it could have just been a fear reaction, yes??? I had never heard this before. You da man joey!
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Post by joeyb on Oct 9, 2013 14:56:48 GMT -5
-I hear ya on the pain thing, but keep in mind prey animals don't feel pain the same way we do. Predators typically do, but prey animals feel fear over the traditional sense of pain. That's why they run like a bat out of He** when they get shot, otherwise they'd lay down in cry with an arrow through their organs. I know the feeling of seeing something suffer though, and best course of action is to end the suffering. However, I have to remind myself sometimes that it's not feeling it like we would. Just a thought to keep in the back of your mind. Congrats 36Fan! Well joey, I appreciate this information. It does make me feel better with this in mind. I use to have frogs in my little pond. I bought some and caught some. One big frog got hung up in my net, and he screamed like I'd never heard them scream. I quickly freed him into my bucket, but I almost let him go. I thought that I was hurting him, but it could have just been a fear reaction, yes??? I had never heard this before. You da man joey! -I'm talking mammals. You get into frogs, fish, bugs, etc.... I have no CLUE.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Oct 9, 2013 15:13:53 GMT -5
The first time I went frog gigging we put the frogs in an old pillowcase after we caught them. We had three or four in there and it sounded like cats fighting. It was quite strange.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 9, 2013 22:13:18 GMT -5
Would the string catching my harness screw the tuning/aim up? I've been practicing with it a lot, and I'm at a loss at what happened. Anytime the bowstring touches anything it will effect the shot. Use full length arm guards, keep the shirt pocket flap over the button, bill of the cap away, and whatever else could possibly touch the bow string. I wasn't referring to the shot when the harness was caught, I meant on subsequent shots. Would the force exerted by harness catching on the bow string mess something up that would result in having to re-sight the bow for every shot after the snag?
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 9, 2013 22:20:55 GMT -5
Nice deer. Way to finish what you started.
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Post by onhopr12 on Oct 22, 2013 21:31:42 GMT -5
I don't think so 36fan unless the string catching the harness messed up your peep sight location, nock location, or gator grip, loop location. It shouldn't mess with your pins or the string groove in the cams.
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