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Dec 12, 2005 17:21:22 GMT -5
Post by Decatur on Dec 12, 2005 17:21:22 GMT -5
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Dec 12, 2005 17:27:45 GMT -5
Post by gundude on Dec 12, 2005 17:27:45 GMT -5
we wont have a CWD problem in Indiana as long as we keep fighting the deer pimps... Do your part and help protect the sport you love.... Get involved and let your voice be heard.
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Dec 12, 2005 17:37:23 GMT -5
Post by trapperdave on Dec 12, 2005 17:37:23 GMT -5
AMEN
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Dec 12, 2005 19:06:33 GMT -5
Post by kevin1 on Dec 12, 2005 19:06:33 GMT -5
we wont have a CWD problem in Indiana as long as we keep fighting the deer ****s... Do your part and help protect the sport you love.... Get involved and let your voice be heard. I despise the deer procurers as much as you do , but just eliminating them won't stop CWD from coming here , it's in the wild now and until it's contained and stopped it will continue to be a concern . This doesn't mean that I'm not pleased that the issue of CWD was a leading factor in their demise though ... ;D
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Dec 12, 2005 20:45:40 GMT -5
Post by jackc99 on Dec 12, 2005 20:45:40 GMT -5
Keith - CWD will appear in Indiana within 10 years. It will walk across the border from Illinois. I wish it weren't so but it will happen. If it doesn't occur that way then one of the unregulated shipments from another state crossing Indiana will have a release here and it will get loose. Or some idiot will bring it back from Colorado in the form of a carcass. But we will get it. And it wil decimate our herd and destroy our hunting for the remainder of our lives.
Our hope lies in the scientists and researchers trying to address the disease and trying to combat it. Right now the best we can do is keep cervid imports at a minimum but some people (about 250 in Indiana) are too greedy to see that. For now we have to delay, delay, delay as much as we can. Once there is a cure to CWD and we can track the cause we should be able to eliminate the disease. As for the high fences....cut 'em down. It ain't hunting. It never will be.
Jack
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Dec 12, 2005 21:26:54 GMT -5
Post by trapperdave on Dec 12, 2005 21:26:54 GMT -5
"As for the high fences....cut 'em down. It ain't hunting. It never will be."
Truer words have NEVER been spoken!
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Dec 13, 2005 8:23:58 GMT -5
Post by gundude on Dec 13, 2005 8:23:58 GMT -5
we wont have a CWD problem in Indiana as long as we keep fighting the deer ****s... Do your part and help protect the sport you love.... Get involved and let your voice be heard. I despise the deer procurers as much as you do , but just eliminating them won't stop CWD from coming here , it's in the wild now and until it's contained and stopped it will continue to be a concern . This doesn't mean that I'm not pleased that the issue of CWD was a leading factor in their demise though ... ;D Kevin and Jack I know you are both right but man thats a reality I find hard to face.......... Lets just hope we stay on top of things and prolong the enveitable as long as we can.......... First step is cutting down the fence..............
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Dec 13, 2005 8:49:10 GMT -5
Post by hotshot on Dec 13, 2005 8:49:10 GMT -5
AS for cutting down the fences, that might be a way of expanding lots of diseases. Instead, ship the deer back to where they came from, then cut down the fences, after a quarantine of the area for 6 months to a year....
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Dec 13, 2005 8:55:57 GMT -5
Post by gundude on Dec 13, 2005 8:55:57 GMT -5
When I said "cut down the fence" it was a figure of speech...... In other words STOP high fence hunting in Indiana..... I didnt mean let the critters go...... that would be just plain stupid.lol
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Dec 13, 2005 8:59:15 GMT -5
Post by gundude on Dec 13, 2005 8:59:15 GMT -5
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Dec 13, 2005 10:48:29 GMT -5
Post by mbogo on Dec 13, 2005 10:48:29 GMT -5
CWD may eventually find its way to Indiana, it may already be here, and although hunters may be called upon to decimate the deer herd to control its spread, the disease itself will not.
Finding a cure is a nice fantasy to entertain but, while it is theoretically possible that one of the few underfunded groups working toward this goal may make a breakthrough, it is not very likely. Even if a cure were discovered it would not likely be feasible to administer it to a deer herd.
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Dec 13, 2005 11:59:37 GMT -5
Post by kevin1 on Dec 13, 2005 11:59:37 GMT -5
Finding a cure is a nice fantasy to entertain but, while it is theoretically possible that one of the few underfunded groups working toward this goal may make a breakthrough, it is not very likely. Even if a cure were discovered it would not likely be feasible to administer it to a deer herd. I would equate it to the contraceptive efforts in New Jersey , not practical for a wild herd even if they found the cure . My biggest hope is that we can contain it at the state line for as long as possible , but I know better . If we're real lucky it may not get any worse than Blue Tongue , after all they're still hunting deer in Wisconsin .
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Dec 14, 2005 6:18:52 GMT -5
Post by mbogo on Dec 14, 2005 6:18:52 GMT -5
More importantly, they're still hunting deer and elk in Colorado, 35 or more years later.
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Dec 14, 2005 10:16:15 GMT -5
Post by kevin1 on Dec 14, 2005 10:16:15 GMT -5
More importantly, they're still hunting deer and elk in Colorado, 35 or more years later. You gotta love a "half full" guy !
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Dec 14, 2005 11:08:58 GMT -5
Post by mbogo on Dec 14, 2005 11:08:58 GMT -5
In the case of the orginal discovery area, the glass is much closer to 90% full than only half.
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Dec 14, 2005 11:23:53 GMT -5
Post by jrbhunter on Dec 14, 2005 11:23:53 GMT -5
Doom and gloom is too "Democratic" for me. I prefer realistic approaches like Mbogos.
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Dec 14, 2005 12:51:13 GMT -5
Post by jkd on Dec 14, 2005 12:51:13 GMT -5
Short-term, the problems here are going to be the same ones that Wisconsin and Michigan found in their audits of deer farms there... unregistered farms, violation of import/export restrictions, penned operators releasing unwanted deer, imported deer escaping into local wild herds...
In short, money talks and the Indiana BOAH and IDNR don't have the manpower to catch every violator... it's exactly like efforts to curtail illegal drug use/sales - as long as there is big money to be made, guys are willing to break the law and there will continue to be a black market for racks and penned shooting....
KD
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