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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 12, 2014 20:16:56 GMT -5
From the DNR.... Comments can now be submitted to the NRC for the rifle proposal and other proposed rule changes at: www.in.gov/nrc/2377.htm. Be sure to click on the FW: Bienniel Rule Amendment Package when submitting comments on these proposed changes. The deadline for comments on the River otter rule package is Thursday, December 11, but we don’t have an exact deadline yet on comments for the biennial rule package.  |
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 12, 2014 21:00:06 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 12, 2014 21:28:55 GMT -5
Thanks.. The email I sent out had a period (supposed to be the end of the sentence) that got included in the url.. I'll send a correction when ProBoards allows another mass mailing |
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 12, 2014 21:33:53 GMT -5
I'm no computer guru, so I assume that the link is the same for everyone -- I have no idea what "app key" is. LOL! If you hover your mouse over the comment link on the NRC page itself, does the address in the lower left corner of your screen match mine?
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Post by greghopper on Nov 12, 2014 21:34:09 GMT -5
Should Hoosiers be allowed to trap river otters for their fur? indy.st/1sEHhVu Personally I say no.... |
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Post by firstwd on Nov 12, 2014 22:02:05 GMT -5
Should Hoosiers be allowed to trap river otters for their fur? indy.st/1sEHhVu Personally I say no.... Like the early years of turkey hunting after their reintroduction, populations in certain areas can support it while most yet can not. |
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Post by jjas on Nov 12, 2014 22:44:13 GMT -5
Done.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 13, 2014 7:39:47 GMT -5
Done.
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Post by parson on Nov 13, 2014 9:13:49 GMT -5
Got 'er did!!
Pass the ammunition please!
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Post by Boilermaker on Nov 13, 2014 9:29:36 GMT -5
Question, I noticed in all of the license changes for deer it stated "An individual may take a deer with a long bow, a recurve bow, or a compound bow during the archery season established in section 4(c) of this rule only if:
(1) issued a license to hunt deer by bow and arrows with: a lifetime comprehensive hunting license under IC 14-22-12-7(a)(4) before its repeal;"
Are they going to repeal the comprehensive lifetime hunting / fishing license(s)?
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 13, 2014 9:56:51 GMT -5
Question, I noticed in all of the license changes for deer it stated "An individual may take a deer with a long bow, a recurve bow, or a compound bow during the archery season established in section 4(c) of this rule only if: (1) issued a license to hunt deer by bow and arrows with: a lifetime comprehensive hunting license under IC 14-22-12-7(a)(4) before its repeal;" Are they going to repeal the comprehensive lifetime hunting / fishing license(s)? They already did . You can't buy them anymore. That is what they mean by "repeal". We are good to go with our LTL until we die.. |
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Post by Boilermaker on Nov 13, 2014 10:05:37 GMT -5
Question, I noticed in all of the license changes for deer it stated "An individual may take a deer with a long bow, a recurve bow, or a compound bow during the archery season established in section 4(c) of this rule only if: (1) issued a license to hunt deer by bow and arrows with: a lifetime comprehensive hunting license under IC 14-22-12-7(a)(4) before its repeal;" Are they going to repeal the comprehensive lifetime hunting / fishing license(s)? They already did . You can't buy them anymore. That is what they mean by "repeal". We are good to go with our LTL until we die.. Ok I about had a fit...I was thinking they were going to invalidate the existing Lifetime License holders. I knew that had repealed them several years ago, but I don't understand the reason for adding "before it's repeal." Seems redundant to me |
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Post by squirrelhunter on Nov 13, 2014 11:47:03 GMT -5
Done.
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Post by esshup on Nov 13, 2014 11:56:00 GMT -5
Should Hoosiers be allowed to trap river otters for their fur? indy.st/1sEHhVu Personally I say no.... Like the early years of turkey hunting after their reintroduction, populations in certain areas can support it while most yet can not. I agree, if the population can support it, then yes. Now, the question is who determines "if the population can support it". Like the wolves...... A river otter family can decimate a pond pretty quickly of the larger fish, just what you don't want them to eat. If there are enough in the area for them to become a problem in an area, then I think that there should be a way to control them. |
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Post by esshup on Nov 13, 2014 12:11:57 GMT -5
Question, I noticed in all of the license changes for deer it stated "An individual may take a deer with a long bow, a recurve bow, or a compound bow during the archery season established in section 4(c) of this rule only if: (1) issued a license to hunt deer by bow and arrows with: a lifetime comprehensive hunting license under IC 14-22-12-7(a)(4) before its repeal;" Are they going to repeal the comprehensive lifetime hunting / fishing license(s)? I am telling them that I don't want that wording added. The way I look at it, that will allow them to repeal the lifetime license. Why do they want the word "repeal" in the law? The defination of repeal is re·peal/rəˈpēl/ verb revoke or annul (a law or congressional act). noun the action of revoking or annulling a law or congressional act. NOT stopping the sale of them like Woody said. That has already been done. Since they aren't sold anymore, why put that in the regulations?? When I bought the lifetime license, it was just that. "lifetime" I think that if the word repeal is allowed to be added, that would allow them to repeal the lifetime licenses that are already issued. Remember, we are dealing with politicians, and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, which isn't far at all. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 13, 2014 13:01:17 GMT -5
Question, I noticed in all of the license changes for deer it stated "An individual may take a deer with a long bow, a recurve bow, or a compound bow during the archery season established in section 4(c) of this rule only if: (1) issued a license to hunt deer by bow and arrows with: a lifetime comprehensive hunting license under IC 14-22-12-7(a)(4) before its repeal;" Are they going to repeal the comprehensive lifetime hunting / fishing license(s)? I am telling them that I don't want that wording added. The way I look at it, that will allow them to repeal the lifetime license. Why do they want the word "repeal" in the law? The defination of repeal is re·peal/rəˈpēl/ verb revoke or annul (a law or congressional act). noun the action of revoking or annulling a law or congressional act. NOT stopping the sale of them like Woody said. That has already been done. Since they aren't sold anymore, why put that in the regulations?? When I bought the lifetime license, it was just that. "lifetime" I think that if the word repeal is allowed to be added, that would allow them to repeal the lifetime licenses that are already issued. Remember, we are dealing with politicians, and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, which isn't far at all. I've asked for clarification on that.. Dropping LTL would get the biggest class lawsuit the DNR has ever seen.. |
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Post by esshup on Nov 13, 2014 13:08:14 GMT -5
Some other things that I saw that jumped out at me.
They want to make using dogs to hunt wild pigs illegal.
They want to make keeping a turtle with a shell size less than 12" illegal, and reduce the turtle take to a max. of 4 per day. So, if your kid catches a 3" baby softshell turtle and wants to take it home for a pet, he'd be breaking the law.
Changing the "sunfish" daily limit to 25. All sunfish of all species in combination. While I think that having an unlimited take on Bluegills is a bit much, I also believe that only allowing a maximun of 25 sunfish of all species in combination is a bit too restrictive.
The otter thing also lumps selling squirrel skins in with it. Why not? Mepps uses squirrel tails.
They are changing the wording on wildlife/vehicle accidents. Any law enforcement officer won't be able to give a "ok to posess" tag, only CO's. Why not allow a county sheriff or state police officer to do it?
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Post by esshup on Nov 13, 2014 13:10:47 GMT -5
I am telling them that I don't want that wording added. The way I look at it, that will allow them to repeal the lifetime license. Why do they want the word "repeal" in the law? The defination of repeal is re·peal/rəˈpēl/ verb revoke or annul (a law or congressional act). noun the action of revoking or annulling a law or congressional act. NOT stopping the sale of them like Woody said. That has already been done. Since they aren't sold anymore, why put that in the regulations?? When I bought the lifetime license, it was just that. "lifetime" I think that if the word repeal is allowed to be added, that would allow them to repeal the lifetime licenses that are already issued. Remember, we are dealing with politicians, and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, which isn't far at all. I've asked for clarification on that.. Dropping LTL would get the biggest class lawsuit the DNR has ever seen.. I agree Woody. I bought it specifically because it was "lifetime" and "includes all tags and permits, including furture licenses, tags and permits wiht the exception of the federal duck stamp", not "until we can repeal it". |
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 13, 2014 14:11:02 GMT -5
I've asked for clarification on that.. Dropping LTL would get the biggest class lawsuit the DNR has ever seen.. I agree Woody. I bought it specifically because it was "lifetime" and "includes all tags and permits, including furture licenses, tags and permits wiht the exception of the federal duck stamp", not "until we can repeal it". From the DNR.. Hi Woody, The Indiana General Assembly repealed IC 14-22-7 this year as part of some kind of “clean-up” or technical bill. When you try to look it up, you’ll see that the statute has been repealed. We consider the lifetime licenses to still be valid, however. |
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Post by esshup on Nov 13, 2014 21:07:43 GMT -5
Yeah, why don't I believe that response? I still don't like having the wording repeal in the proposed rules. Why even have to have it in there if not selling the lifetime licenses is already a done deal?? Why have to add that now?
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