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Post by tjmurf on Dec 20, 2014 7:28:37 GMT -5
If it passes state wide I will be using my .243 next year. If it doesn't I will be taking a road trip and will be using a .358 Hoosier in 2015. Either way the shotgun won't see the light of day next year for deer season.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2014 7:35:27 GMT -5
I haven't used my shotgun in Indiana since the PCRs were OKed. I use my Ruger .44 Carbine..
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 20, 2014 7:36:21 GMT -5
I'm not going to complain about any legal weapon any other hunter chooses to use. I never have. It has ZERO impact on my choices. Exactly! It won't impact my hunting one bit either way...If it makes someone more efficient at killing their deer and filling their deer tag...more power to them....as for me in my little corner of the hunting world, on land my family owns and I hunt....business as usual nothing will change, deer won't know the difference they'll still come to my food plots as they always have, I'll still shoot them with my bow, or muzzle loader like always, status quo.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Dec 20, 2014 13:09:05 GMT -5
If it doesn't pass I'll just use 1 of the 4 legal guns I already have,except the shotgun-I've never deer hunted with it and have no interest to start now . If it does pass I'll probably take the 30-06 some but I'll still use the others too,there's no point in them just sitting around collecting dust.
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Post by jjas on Dec 20, 2014 15:37:45 GMT -5
While I support the rule change, it won't change how I hunt @ all. My pcr works just fine for deer hunting and my slug gun has been sold.
When I purchased a crossbow for deer, I switched to it for turkey hunting as well and sold my last shotgun.
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 21, 2014 16:37:53 GMT -5
Greetings I have had a sheltered upbringing can someone tell me what or who an Amish is please? Regards Billy
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Post by greghopper on Dec 21, 2014 16:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 21, 2014 17:29:34 GMT -5
thank you billy
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 21, 2014 19:12:05 GMT -5
To put it in simple terms, Amish are Christians who live like people did in the 1800's. They don't use electricity, phones, automobiles, tractors, power tools, etc. They ride around in buggies pulled by horses, and light their homes with oil lamps. They plow their fields with horse-drawn plows.
There are more modern Amish-like people called "Mennonites" who do ride in vehicles and use electricity. To the uninformed, they basically look and dress the same.
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Post by subzero350 on Dec 22, 2014 13:12:04 GMT -5
To put it in simple terms, Amish are Christians who live like people did in the 1800's. They don't use electricity, phones, automobiles, tractors, power tools, etc. They ride around in buggies pulled by horses, and light their homes with oil lamps. They plow their fields with horse-drawn plows. There are more modern Amish-like people called "Mennonites" who do ride in vehicles and use electricity. To the uninformed, they basically look and dress the same. Depends on the church leadership and how strict they are about their beliefs and customs. Here in NE Indiana, most Amish have cell phones, electricity (generator powered only - not connected to the grid), drive tractors and earth moving equipment, and also all seem to own boats and pontoons with gasoline outboard motors. However, I have not seen any one of them drive a car or truck. They still do the horse and buggy thing. It cracks me up when I see a horse and buggy towing a fishing boat with an outboard motor on it down to the boat launch... In truth, I honestly don't care what they do or what they believe as long as they play by the same rules as everyone else does (ie: follows the same laws I have to and pays their taxes). That having been said, I can tell you I don't think it is going to be long before there is going to be a major boating accident on our lake chain. The Amish who fish it regularly overload pontoons with people and gear to the point the pontoon floats are almost completely underwater. This problem has been brought up many times with the local DNR, but they say they don't carry scales with them to weigh people and gear. They say as long as the Amish don't put more people on the boat than its tag says it can carry, they let it pass. But the tag also says there is a maximum weight limit and I guarantee you some of these boats and pontoons I see filled to the brim are overloaded. The other issue is speeding. Apparently, the Amish have no concept of speed. We regularly see them speeding thru narrow channels and sometimes driving recklessly on the lakes, yes they even do it with overloaded watercraft! Again, concerns have been brought up with the local DNR but they only have so many CO's for so many lakes and can't be everywhere at once to police the waters.
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 22, 2014 17:53:56 GMT -5
seems interesting, thank you, nothing like that were i live. trees, sheep and nutters, lol regards billy
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Post by greghopper on Dec 22, 2014 17:55:40 GMT -5
seems interesting, thank you, nothing like that were i live. trees, sheep and nutters, lol regards billy That's why you got a overpulation of Deer there!!!
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 22, 2014 18:56:30 GMT -5
seems interesting, thank you, nothing like that were i live. That's why you got a overpulation of Deer there!!! Good one. LOL!
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 23, 2014 17:57:24 GMT -5
Why does Amish have anything to do with deer populations, surely they have the same laws and limits as everyone else? Or are they just good at it, heheheheheheheh You asked for that my friend, lol regards Billy hohoho.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 23, 2014 18:27:54 GMT -5
Why does Amish have anything to do with deer populations, surely they have the same laws and limits as everyone else? Or are they just good at it, heheheheheheheh You asked for that my friend, lol regards Billy hohoho. They have a reputation of killing everything that moves and clearing all game from a property. I've heard more than one reference to it, but never witnessed it myself, even when hunting a property adjoining theirs. I would assume that they follow game laws. Perhaps their numbers are so great in a confined area that there aren't enough deer for everyone. To hear people tell it, you could send a single Amish family to England and solve your deer problems there in a single season. LOL!
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 23, 2014 19:00:21 GMT -5
I don't understand what all the fuss is about. If they didn't let crossbows pass my son wouldn't be able to do archery part of the season. He can shoot a bow but he just can't hit anything. LOL He likes the crossbow better. He did get a turkey a couple years back with the cross bow. IMO if you have something for hunting but can't use it in the state you live in what good is it. It will probably pass anyways because I have already spent the time and money to build a 358 Hoosier, when I could have used my 308 and not spent as much.LOL Used it this year and got a buck opening day.
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Post by subzero350 on Dec 23, 2014 20:21:21 GMT -5
Why does Amish have anything to do with deer populations, surely they have the same laws and limits as everyone else? Or are they just good at it, heheheheheheheh You asked for that my friend, lol regards Billy hohoho. Some people assume the Amish over-harvest. We have neighbors at the lake who are convinced the fish population in the lake chain has fallen off dramatically over the past decade because of the ever increasing number of Amish families who are fishing our lake chain. Is that true? I don't know - I have no proof of how many fish they actually catch and keep. I do see a lot of boats and pontoons overloaded with Amish finishing the lakes, more so than I did 20 years ago, but that is the extent of my observation. I can tell you that 20 years ago I fished the same lake chain and it was not out of the ordinary to catch 200 - 300 nice sized bluegill in an afternoon on any given summer day. These days, it seems difficult to find them and when you do, you usually only end up with 100 keepers or less. Are the Amish the sole cause of this? I doubt it, as a lot of things have changed on this particular lake chain in the past 20 years. It now has increased drainage from a northern county which has resulted in worse and more frequent flooding; and the amount of fertilizer runoff from surrounding farms has also increased as a result (which increases the amount of underwater plant growth). I'm sure everything has played a part.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 24, 2014 7:16:00 GMT -5
seems interesting, thank you, nothing like that were i live. trees, sheep and nutters, lol regards billy That's why you got a overpulation of Deer there!!!
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Post by throbak on Dec 24, 2014 8:05:39 GMT -5
Billy ..Amish most I know any way Have 10 or more kids their needs for venison are a lot higher tan say my Wife and I would need my wife and I could kill 12 bonus the Amish and the 10 kids 72 and they try real hard to kill that many around me anyway
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 24, 2014 8:20:31 GMT -5
Greetings But I thought there were laws and limits to stop them taking more than there share. I could understand it in the Times way back that they are trying to replicate, but someone needs to try telling them, no stop, go to the supermarket like every one else has to. I am far from racist etc but I do get annoyed over here when laws and rules are changed for a different culture, For example we have to wear a motorcycle helmet but a man with a turban doesn't, eh? Why?. Tell him to take the towel of his head?? Lol. And while at it learn them about contraception, sorry woody but it's true, lol. Oh man some folks these Amish,lol. Regards Billy.
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