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Post by M4Madness on Jan 14, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by cedarthicket on Jan 15, 2015 20:39:12 GMT -5
As posted on the thread under Deer Hunting (Current data on the public comment, p 8) the Advisory Council (AC) met on January 14, 2015 as scheduled. (Please note that the Advisory Council (AC) is just what its name implies -- it gives advice, serves as a sounding board, makes suggestions, etc. It does NOT have the authority to rule on proposals for regulation changes like the Natural Resources Commission does.) The AC discussed the proposed “high-power rifle” rule changes as noted in their meeting agenda. Following is the link to their January 14 meeting agenda: www.in.gov/nrc/2435.htmThe January 14 meeting was a matter of public record and the meeting minutes will be made available to the public. Also, it is my understanding that at the upcoming meeting (January 20, 2015) of the Natural Resources Commission (NRC) the Advisory Council will present a report of what transpired at its most recent meeting. Please refer to the following link to see the agenda for the NRC January 20, 2015 meeting: in.gov/nrc/2350.htmAlso, please note that in my opinion no ruling regarding the “high-power rifle” rule is expected by the NRC at its January 20 meeting. I suspect the NRC will hear what the AC has to say and take it under consideration as additional input in the process of evaluating comments regarding proposed rule changes. Also, please note that I have not yet seen or heard any specific date or dates for public hearings. There will most likely be more than one public hearing, taking into account all the interest in the proposed rule changes by citizens all over the state. I do expect the date(s) for public hearing(s) will be announced before long. JMHO -- FWIW
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Post by cedarthicket on Jan 20, 2015 15:51:00 GMT -5
From another site:
“4. Advisory Council - classified forest program is becoming quite popular for landowners trying to reduce their tax bill. Advise anyone with 10 acres or more to look into getting your property into the plan now. - high power rifle was discussed at last week's Advisory Council meeting. Consensus is that it is largely a social issue. All comments are being reviewed. Pat Early stated he read all 1900 comments and more were pouring in. As of now the rate is 50-50 to 60-40 and is clearly a devisive issue. The public hearings likely will be in March. 3 people showed up for the meeting. 1 commented for, 1 commented against, and the Council itself made no recommendation.”
My observations:
Regarding the high-power rifle issue, the Advisory Council gave a report of its January 14 meeting to the NRC today. Especially noteworthy, is that the Advisory Council gave no specific recommendations to the NRC. I would add that I believe the proposed rule language must first be published in the Indiana Register before any public hearings are held on the matter. So, if the hearings will start in March the Indiana Register will need to publish the proposal language pretty soon.
At this point in time the proposal is still “alive.” Also, the comment period is still open. However, it would be sheer speculation on my part to predict what the eventual outcome will be.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 20, 2015 16:17:07 GMT -5
Thank you sir....
I just sent out two mass email requests for folks to send in their comments on the rifles and the catfish proposals,
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Post by dan007 on May 1, 2015 19:04:32 GMT -5
Hello. anybody can recommend any good classified Wildlands Program.Is it worth doing it and locking the real estate in for so many years?Is it worth doing it at all since You have to pay taxes and penalties back? Does it reduce your land value for resale? I have around 35+ acres that zoned residential and they are taxing me TO DEATH on it. Are there any programs with creeks and waterfrontage that anybody knows? What are the negative sides about being in the program... Anybody ,please help... Thank You
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Post by tynimiller on May 2, 2015 10:07:21 GMT -5
Hello. anybody can recommend any good classified Wildlands Program.Is it worth doing it and locking the real estate in for so many years?Is it worth doing it at all since You have to pay taxes and penalties back? Does it reduce your land value for resale? I have around 35+ acres that zoned residential and they are taxing me TO DEATH on it. Are there any programs with creeks and waterfrontage that anybody knows? What are the negative sides about being in the program... Anybody ,please help... Thank You Assessment of land is something Indiana is finally doing "more appropriately" the nice thing is that they still lag behind true market value when it comes to assessing land...especially if it is still in as agricultural ground (meaning actively being farmed for cash crops). The benefit for truly going classified is to avoid taxes but like stated it isn't always the best long term. If you have any tillable area on your ground lease out it to a farmer, document it and your land will be applicable according to state IC code law in assessing land in Indiana. If it is entirely wooded and you don't have the ability to lease the land for farming there are options however when trying to avoid taxes you will need to do some leg work but it is doable to get agricultural pricing once paperwork in place. You have a few options, let me know if you can't lease a portion (like 5acres or more should be safe to do) and I can probably get you some information. If you can lease just do that as it will benefit you in the end tax game and avoid taxes.
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Post by throbak on May 2, 2015 13:15:07 GMT -5
I have 88 acres in classified 1 dollar per acre it helps no issues for me . but be watchful in some cases they try to up the assessment on say 5 acres that is with the house they will also say you have tillable when it isn't
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Post by tynimiller on May 3, 2015 12:58:24 GMT -5
I have 88 acres in classified 1 dollar per acre it helps no issues for me . but be watchful in some cases they try to up the assessment on say 5 acres that is with the house they will also say you have tillable when it isn't Classified cannot be applied to the home area, but that is all laid out when it is actually classified. The issues are never during the present it is always when you try to remove it from it or sell it and the buyer removes it from it. Also to get DNR classified ground there are things you cannot and can do and it has to be reviewed (or techniquely) every so many years and in many cases yearly. Granted this is usually just a BS review and rarely onsite due to the understaffed issues. I always tell people the best thing to do is to lease to a farmer a portion of the property and that changes the way the entire parcel has to be assessed (excluding homesite, and residential excess area). 2nd best option is the dumb stewardship programs you can do with your district forester...again though this qualifies you for ag assessment rates...which is still vastly below market value (excluding your swamp or a-typical situations).
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Post by tomthreetoes on May 5, 2015 7:25:14 GMT -5
When we bought our 80 acres the taxes went from less than $300 to $2600 a year. It seems our over zealous acessor had it re classified from surplus agricultural to residential. Going classified was the only way we could keep it. It was logged by the previous owner and that allowed us to go back to agricultural.There are some draw backs to the program but we will never use the propety for anything other than recreation and some timber harvest so no problems.
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Post by tynimiller on May 5, 2015 10:22:11 GMT -5
When we bought our 80 acres the taxes went from less than $300 to $2600 a year. It seems our over zealous acessor had it re classified from surplus agricultural to residential. Going classified was the only way we could keep it. It was logged by the previous owner and that allowed us to go back to agricultural.There are some draw backs to the program but we will never use the propety for anything other than recreation and some timber harvest so no problems. Guys, stop labeling assessor in such an ill light...in a case as this they simply were doing things as the state directs them and rightly so. If you can still farm a portion of the property, lease it out and provide documentation...they cannot refuse to assess the property agriculturally due to this, only time it would cover the ENTIRE property is when one has a home, business or another atypical situational use of the ground (gravel pit or such). Just a heads up to anyone looking into classified route...there are other ways to gain the agricultural discount/assessment and pay minimal taxes but be able to sell should bad times arise at the drop of a hat (with no penalty). Classified forests will allow you the ability to pay basically zilch...but there are regulations and penalties depending on the plan and when and how it is removed from the classification. I tell guys all the time in my line of work just be thankful we live in a state that makes it so incredibly easy to gain the agricultural assessment levels on a piece of property and assuring the value is WAY below true market value in nearly every case.
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