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May 10, 2015 18:42:45 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on May 10, 2015 18:42:45 GMT -5
Would you bait if it was legal?
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Post by dbd870 on May 10, 2015 18:53:06 GMT -5
Nah; have experience hunting a bait state - it's not worth the effort to me. The only reason I'm in favor of allowing it is then all the gray area stuff goes away.
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May 10, 2015 19:16:16 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on May 10, 2015 19:16:16 GMT -5
What Dave said....
Either legalize it or ban feeding completely
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May 10, 2015 19:17:47 GMT -5
Post by squirrelhunter on May 10, 2015 19:17:47 GMT -5
I doubt it,I used salt blocks when I lived in Kentucky and in the years I used it I only had deer come into it once while I was hunting.
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Post by trophyparadise on May 10, 2015 20:41:13 GMT -5
No..but I would support legalizing it...as mentioned already it would get rid of the gray area surrounding minerals and supplemental feeding...both of which I do utilize. Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752
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May 11, 2015 5:27:00 GMT -5
Post by featherduster on May 11, 2015 5:27:00 GMT -5
Yes.
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May 11, 2015 5:40:32 GMT -5
Post by tenring on May 11, 2015 5:40:32 GMT -5
No, then it goes from hunting to just killing.
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Post by tynimiller on May 11, 2015 7:12:19 GMT -5
No..but I would support legalizing it...as mentioned already it would get rid of the gray area surrounding minerals and supplemental feeding...both of which I do utilize. It is the minerals which I struggle with them not allowing year round. I respect it, abide by it and expect them to enforce it but I'd be for changing it. However, I'd be for only true mineral supplements....not just salt licks. THIS WOULD ONLY be the case if the justification for doing mineral sites is for the health of the deer...salt licks do next to zero for the deer, but true mineral sites help replenish nutrients loss, lactating mothers, skeletal structure as it grows and overall introduces and strengthens the minerals and vitamins a healthy deer needs. (the whole antler debate doesn't matter IMO) Afterall while deer may visit sites year round, talk to hunters in states where minerals are allowed year round and you learn very quickly that deer desire and need for them drop during the hunting season...making the sites less than "hot spots" for activity, hence why I don't view them as baiting to the same degree as a pile of corn or apples. Now if you are legalizing them under the baiting umbrella than sure stuff like trophy rock and other HIGH salt content "trace minerals" stuff I guess it all wouldn't matter. Me personally I have ZERO desire to hunt over a pile of food corn/apples/etc that I CONTROL WHEN IT IS THERE, I CONTROL THE TIME IT IS THERE...not hunting to me personally. I doubt it,I used salt blocks when I lived in Kentucky and in the years I used it I only had deer come into it once while I was hunting. I wouldn't expect salt blocks to hold much attractiveness during the hunting seasons...also all depends where the block is to as to whether deer will come to it during hunting hours.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 8:57:20 GMT -5
I would not hunt over a bait pile but I would probably run year round mineral licks. At least not having to worry about getting rid of all mineral trace and effected soil would be a big help. I'd very much be in favor of that.
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May 11, 2015 11:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by GS1 on May 11, 2015 11:22:08 GMT -5
Probably not.
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May 11, 2015 12:17:08 GMT -5
Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 11, 2015 12:17:08 GMT -5
Absolutely! But I would bait now with a food plot if I had my own land.
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Post by jimstc on May 11, 2015 14:12:00 GMT -5
I have 5 of my acres seeded with Beck's ultimate pasture mix (alfalfa, timothy and orchard grasses) and I am going to over seed it with clover and chicory mix. I don't see this as baiting. I do see it as good land management and creating an attractive environment for deer. The buck in my avatar was taken on my place. I hope to grow and attract healthy deer.
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May 11, 2015 14:32:18 GMT -5
Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 11, 2015 14:32:18 GMT -5
I have 5 of my acres seeded with Beck's ultimate pasture mix (alfalfa, timothy and orchard grasses) and I am going to over seed it with clover and chicory mix. I don't see this as baiting. I do see it as good land management and creating an attractive environment for deer. The buck in my avatar was taken on my place. I hope to grow and attract healthy deer. That's a REALLY nice buck Jim. I don't care to call it what it is; I'm a killer of what's in season, and I don't even bait with a food plot. I can't call myself a hunter with only 10 acres; I just sit until one passes through. Sometimes I lay in the creek, and this feels like hunting. I think if you throw some oats in there, you'll probably be a baiter. LOL With 5 acres though, a deer could be in a lot of spots that you couldn't reach with a bow, so it's probably not baiting. Have you ever thought about planting an acre of sunflowers for doves? If I ever get the chance to bait with a food plot or a bag of corn, I will sure do it, and I don't care what anyone calls it. It will be a memory that I will cherish, and this is really all I care about. We do have some guys here that I call die hard hunters and I admire them greatly. Swilk hunted his butt off last year and finally got a nice one. Even if I were healthy, I could not have done what he did.
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Post by jimstc on May 11, 2015 15:08:19 GMT -5
Jon, I have 15 acres. Roughly 8 of pasture and 7 of woods. Actually this fall I planted a cover crop of radishes and oats on four acres. The first hard frost killed it. My goals were to minimize erosion until I put in a permanent crop and enhance the soil. I agree with you regarding corn. I bought over a ton of Beck's unsold seed corn and fed all winter as I have done for years. Interestingly, this was the first year a deer has been taken on my place and I have been here 18 years. Baiting? Feeding? Heck I don't know and don't care. I see herds of 10+ does all year long here. They like it here and the price of admission is one deer every 18 years. Bet they will take that offer......
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May 11, 2015 17:14:45 GMT -5
Post by uncleharley on May 11, 2015 17:14:45 GMT -5
I got my stand next to an apple tree. No big deal either way to me.
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May 11, 2015 18:15:53 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on May 11, 2015 18:15:53 GMT -5
if someone had a pile of apples in front of there kitchen window to watch the deer eat and I drove by and saw one out there I'd shoot it right out the passenger window but I wouldn't put a bait pile out on purpose unless it was clearly defined by the law what baits I could use I feel like every time I step in the woods I have to look over my shoulder as it is I am constantly double checking for a marker and paper for my temporary tag and such I can only imagine what kind of rules they would establish for baitng but I am for any law which disenegrates a more restrictive one
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May 11, 2015 18:49:02 GMT -5
Post by esshup on May 11, 2015 18:49:02 GMT -5
I think a lot depends on the deer density and the amount of available food for the deer.
I Deer hunt in Northern Wisconsin, where baiting is legal. The deer density is very low. 1,700 acres of woods that is primarily mature Maple trees (95+%), with spruce and hemlock in the swampy areas. Absolutely NO agriculture, absolutely NO open fields, NO mast trees. If a small parcel was logged, then that is the place to hunt because of the available browse. You can walk all day long and not cross a deer track in some areas. Hard winters, wolves and coyotes have taken their toll the past few years. Up until last year (I believe) you couldn't shoot a coyote during deer season....
Deer firearms season is 9 days long. Up there, if guys do bait, then the guys that don't are at a distinct disadvantage. Deer will move from an unbaited area to one that has bait. (their stomach rules when it comes time to put fat on for the winter)
Baiting there has rules too.
Placement: No person may place, use, or hunt deer over: • bait located in a county in which baiting and feeding of deer is prohibited. • more than 2 gallons of bait on each contiguous area of land under the same ownership that is less than 40 acres in size, or for each full 40 acres that make up a contiguous area of land under the same ownership. Note: Parcels of land that do not touch but are separated only by a town or county road or state highway are considered contiguous. Note: Feed at feeding sites may be spread out or divided into more than one pile as long as the total amount of feed material is not more than 2 gallons per forty acres. • any feeding site that is located within 100 yards of any other feeding site located on the same contiguous area of land under the same ownership. • any feeding site if the person doing the hunting is within 100 yards of more than 2 gallons of bait or feed located on the same parcel of land. • any feeding site that is located within 50 yards of any trail, road, or campsite used by the public, or within 100 yards of a roadway, having a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour or more.
You cannot bait or feed the deer outside of the hunting season (you can place bait out 24 hr in advance of the deer season opener).
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May 12, 2015 7:05:42 GMT -5
Post by tynimiller on May 12, 2015 7:05:42 GMT -5
if someone had a pile of apples in front of there kitchen window to watch the deer eat and I drove by and saw one out there I'd shoot it right out the passenger window I'm praying this is a joke...a poor attempt at one at that.
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Post by jimstc on May 14, 2015 17:54:14 GMT -5
Spread my clover and chicory yesterday. The field looks great from last fall's planting. It is above knee high. Plan to round bale it to keep it healthy and growing for October
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May 14, 2015 18:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on May 14, 2015 18:30:33 GMT -5
No desire to hunt over bait...don't think that around the areas I hunt it would be any advantage especially for mature deer.
I would like the ability to run mineral sites without worry of running afoul of the current grey areas. Wouldn't hunt the mineral sites....
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