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Post by windingwinds on Sept 29, 2015 16:29:30 GMT -5
It comes down to time. Do you have it or are you willing to spend it? Location can also be a limiting factor, many of those tv shows are in fenced areas. Twenty acres makes it difficult in my own home. But consider this.....does everyone think that the original hunters gave a crap how they hunted? They were hunting over whatever they could, water or field or acorn tree to bring home the meat. I personally plan on hunting Thursday next to our creek and by the acorn trees, not that different than a bait pile.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 29, 2015 16:42:05 GMT -5
I think I will hunt the first few days of the season, mostly just to see what comes by. I won't shoot a buck bait (doe) on my food plot now, but sure would like to watch them munching on my crops. I'm curious what they like best now.
I did see a spot where it looked like they were digging up turnips, but I sure didn't think there would be any yet.
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Post by duff on Sept 29, 2015 17:05:43 GMT -5
I have met some great hunters. They were good for different reasons. Some could read the landscape like a map with very little effort, others worked hard and hunted hard, some just seemed lucky.
Whos to say one is a better woodsman?
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 29, 2015 17:31:54 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting?
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Post by esshup on Sept 29, 2015 17:39:22 GMT -5
I believe so. How do kids learn it? Either self taught or by their elders. In todays fast paced world, how many parents/elders/peers have the time to spend as much time in the woods with the kids as 30-50 years ago??
I feel like I was lucky. Grew up in the city, but we had a house out in the country. There was 100+ acres about 1/4 mile away that was pretty much wild - no houses, etc. on it. Every weekend we'd be out in the country, and as a kid I could get out and play in the woods. Even tho I had to help around the house, I still got a few hours from sunup 'till around 8 to go outside and learn.
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Post by esshup on Sept 29, 2015 17:43:32 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? That's an "Oh SH.. Somebody's going to be in big trouble." moment. Sort of like the farm hand a few years back who combined a whole field of corn and left the screen open on the combine. He couldn't figure out why the combine wasn't filling up, but never stopped to check. I was told that the DNR told the farmer that nobody could hunt waterfowl in the field because it would be considered baiting - it was not a "normal" agricultural practice.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 29, 2015 17:59:20 GMT -5
nfalls, that looks like road kill waiting to happen.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 29, 2015 18:46:11 GMT -5
I have met some great hunters. They were good for different reasons. Some could read the landscape like a map with very little effort, others worked hard and hunted hard, some just seemed lucky. Then there's Duff, the total package One thing I know, as soon as I think I've got it all figured out, I realize pretty quick I really don't...
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Post by duff on Sept 29, 2015 20:24:18 GMT -5
You are not a kidding. I bring the average down on most things, I just like to make guys like you feel good about yourself!
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 29, 2015 20:40:58 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? Oh my.....yikes!!
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 29, 2015 20:49:02 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? Oh my.....yikes!! the back side of that is on a slope so that's only part of it, Guess he just came off the highway a little to fast
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 29, 2015 22:06:00 GMT -5
IMO its the lack of land available to the hunter. If I were to stalk the deer on my dads farm I would soon run out of property to roam around on. 80 acres really isnt allot to hunt on when 80% of it is farm land. So what do you do? blinds and tree stands. My friend only has 7 acres to hunt on stalking wouldn't be a very long hunt on his property. I have taken the time to teach my son the different trees and plants in the woods. But you have to have the time to take the young ones with to actually show them, not just in a book or the internet. A shag bark Hickory or a sycamore in the woods is much cooler looking in person. Trapping is defiantly going to the way side. No demand for fur sucked the life right out of that. Plus its allot of hard work. You have to be dedicated to your trap line. Trapping season was one of my favorite things to do. But my job is what keeps me from doing it now. I would still do it for fun if I had the time. Now when I go out to MT for deer season that will be real stalking, no tree stands or blinds!
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 30, 2015 9:31:48 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? Food Plot...
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Post by drs on Sept 30, 2015 9:32:39 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? Food Plot... Looks like a grain spill to me.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 30, 2015 10:00:36 GMT -5
So... Is this baiting? Food Plot... It just needs a good rain to sprout...
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Post by salt on Sept 30, 2015 10:50:13 GMT -5
Looks like gold to me!
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Post by span870 on Sept 30, 2015 15:06:09 GMT -5
I have met some great hunters. They were good for different reasons. Some could read the landscape like a map with very little effort, others worked hard and hunted hard, some just seemed lucky. Whos to say one is a better woodsman? Thanks bud. Your not that bad yourself.
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Post by span870 on Sept 30, 2015 15:18:01 GMT -5
This baiting vs food plot argument drives me crazy. What exactly is the difference? Some say the bait pile is to attract deer. Well what is a food plot. To attract deer. Show me the difference. One just takes longer to get the food out. Let's say an acre of corn produces 100 bushels. Note say I take an acre field, disc plow it and scatter 100 bushels of corn on said field. Why is one considered baiting and one isn't? Because I waited 6 months for the corn to come up. It's a ridiculous argument. Like it or not, you're hunting over a food plot, you're baiting and have to right to look down on someone in another state that puts a pile of corn out. Size difference. How about the 1/4 acre throw and grow. That's okay but not scattering corn 1/4 acre. Can't bait because it'll draw deer off my property. Well your food plot draws then off of mine. Someone tell me the difference between that 100 bushels growing in 6 months or me scattering it. I grow it to enhance all wildlife. Lot of better crops out there for all wildlife than corn, clover, and beans. How about planting that field in switchgrass or bluestem. Those will benefit way more wildlife than your crops. If it didn't attract deer would you plant it. If not guess what. You're baiting.
To clarify. I've never hunted over a food plot. Never hunted over bait, and never hunted over a field. Not against them and have no issue of you want to do either. Just think it's silly argument and makes no sense.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 30, 2015 15:21:26 GMT -5
This baiting vs food plot argument drives me crazy. What exactly is the difference? Some say the bait pile is to attract deer. Week what is a food plot. To attract deer. Show me the difference. One just takes longer to get the food out. Let's say an acre of corn produces 100 bushels. Note say I take an acre field, disc plow it and scatter 100 bushels of corn on said field. Why is one considered baiting and one isn't? Because I waited 6 months for the corn to come up. It's a ridiculous argument. Like it or not, you're hunting over a food plot, you're baiting and have to right to look down on someone in another state that puts a pile of corn out. Size difference. How about the 1/4 acre their and grow. That's okay but not scattering corn 1/4 acre. Can't bait because it'll draw deer off my property. Well your food plot draws then off of mine. Someone tell me the difference between that 100 bushels growing in 6 months or me scattering it. To clarify. I've never hunted over a food plot. Never hunted over bait, and never hunted over a field. Not against them and have no issue of you want to do either. Just think it's silly argument and makes no sense. It falls under the DNR'S favorite buzz word, "social issue".
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 30, 2015 15:24:00 GMT -5
Honestly if you think a controlled feeding bait pile is the same as a food plot, you are either purposely choosing to think that way or have never experienced a food plot or put one in. They are not the same after you state the obvious fact they are a food source for the deer.
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