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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 9, 2017 7:20:48 GMT -5
Sarah Bowman, is a reporter for the Indy Star and a friend of mine on Face Book who sent me the following message…
I messaged her back and told her we would be more than glad to help her out on her article(s).
She responded -
I’ve started this thread so that she can chime in (she signed up here yesterday) and we all can discuss what information that she is seeking and how she can help us.
Please give her a warm Hunt-Indiana.com welcome!
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Post by greghopper on Nov 9, 2017 7:50:31 GMT -5
I was alway under the impression the Indy Star was anti gun...I remember when the stopped allowing gun adds and gun show adds.Maybe they have turned the corner on this issue I surley hope so.
The Motorsports coverage is the best in the state IMO....thats why I still view their paper/site.
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Post by sakorifle on Nov 9, 2017 8:00:25 GMT -5
Welcome from the United kingdom Sarah, this site is worldwide and all with different hunting cultures and laws. Hope you enjoy the site as much as we do and perhaps even try hunting yourself if you don't already. Kindest regards Billy.
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Post by swilk on Nov 9, 2017 8:05:29 GMT -5
The safety harness things is just soooo touchy. I firmly believe that everyone should wear one but I also firmly believe that they should not be forced to do so. A statewide education campaign might help.
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Post by duff on Nov 9, 2017 8:19:21 GMT -5
Welcome!
I agree on safety issues. I wear one 100% of the time and hope others do as well. I have dove hunted with a guy who was bound to a wheel chair because he fell from a tree stand. I would have a hard time with that. At the same time it is a landowner and hunter decision. Not the state.
Other hot topic is the influence legislators have on managing our wildlife. Recent issue on public land hunting with rifles is an example.
Finally the publicity gained by DNR enforcement using facebook is showing many people the amount of poaching and that people do get arrested.
Sure we can come up with other topics.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 9, 2017 8:20:31 GMT -5
The safety harness things is just soooo touchy. I firmly believe that everyone should wear one but I also firmly believe that they should not be forced to do so. A statewide education campaign might help. I agree...untill they make every motor cycle rider wears a helment I truley doubt a LAW could pass making everyone wear a harness.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 9, 2017 8:22:11 GMT -5
True enough, many of us are not pleased the legislature got involved in areas that historically have been handled by the DNR. We do not feel they have the expertise to handle this, and so far with the convoluted mess that rifle regulations have been it has been proven true.
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Post by swilk on Nov 9, 2017 8:26:09 GMT -5
Welcome! I agree on safety issues. I wear one 100% of the time and hope others do as well. I have dove hunted with a guy who was bound to a wheel chair because he fell from a tree stand. I would have a hard time with that. At the same time it is a landowner and hunter decision. Not the state. Other hot topic is the influence legislators have on managing our wildlife. Recent issue on public land hunting with rifles is an example. Finally the publicity gained by DNR enforcement using facebook is showing many people the amount of poaching and that people do get arrested. Sure we can come up with other topics. A social media presence by the DNR is a very good thing. Something they should expand on and possibly look into a media director if there is not one already employed.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 9, 2017 8:52:21 GMT -5
The most recent example of misinformation I've heard was a radio ad trying to garner support to fight the DNR's efforts to log portions of Yellowwood State Forest. These same scare tactics and lawsuits started getting used about three decades ago with Hoosier National Forest with enough success that Indiana no longer has a sustainable enough grouse population to have a hunting season.
Just look at the last few months out west and you'll see the exact reason we need managed harvest in our forests. If we don't take care of them, nature will and the devastation that brings can be extreme.
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Post by indyqdog on Nov 9, 2017 11:21:11 GMT -5
The most recent example of misinformation I've heard was a radio ad trying to garner support to fight the DNR's efforts to log portions of Yellowwood State Forest. These same scare tactics and lawsuits started getting used about three decades ago with Hoosier National Forest with enough success that Indiana no longer has a sustainable enough grouse population to have a hunting season. Just look at the last few months out west and you'll see the exact reason we need managed harvest in our forests. If we don't take care of them, nature will and the devastation that brings can be extreme. Grouse in Indiana? LOL!!!! What I would give for that to be feasible... Man now I want to move to Michigan! In regards to harnesses. I am admittedly conflicted. My libertarian principles urge me to say "absolutely not, the State shouldn't be able to create a law mandating harnesses." And from a legal standpoint, no, I don't think it would stand... Buttttttt...who are they gonna call when they fall out of the tree? The State. Who will pay their disability? The State (actually, all of us, the taxpayers). Yes, I had a guy come in when I worked at Dick's in Lafayette who said "yeah man, I hunt every single day of my life. Broke my back when I fell out of a treestand and now I am on disability" as if it was some huge perk. Sorry, but I'm not sure I can stomach someone falling out of a treestand due to their own ignorance and then claiming that they are too disabled to work but not enough to hunt yotes every day...
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Post by featherduster on Nov 9, 2017 17:03:30 GMT -5
Sarah,as a senior citizen and a land owner I no longer climb a tree stand instead I hunt from the confines of an enclosed blind that affords me with creature comforts such as a carpeted floor,heater and sliding windows. This "shoot house" as my wife likes to call it is the safest and most comfortable way for me to hunt. I don't grow food plots to attract the deer because I am surrounded by agricultural fields,I don't use trail cameras because I know when a buck is around just by looking at his rubs and scrapes and besides I like to be surprised by what ever comes my way. I am not a trophy hunter so the size of the deer's rack doesn't excite me like it does others, I am a meat hunter period. I don't need or want more than 1 deer to provide my wife and I along with our dinner guests with enough meat to take us to the next deer season. I look at every harvested deer as a culinary challenge because my wife and I love to cook especially wild game and fish. I am not talking about throwing it on the grill I am talking about unique and time consuming recipes that leave you wanting more. I try to make a clean fresh kills and field dress the animal as neatly and quickly as possible I also use the deer's organs in some of my recipes so not much is left for the critters. I don't give wild game away because I learned early on that a lot of folks who said they tried it and didn't like it didn't know how to prepare it or it wasn't processed correctly to start with. I don't video tape my hunts and I don't mount my kills instead if I do get lucky and take a trophy I will seek out a piece of artwork that portrays the animal as I saw it on the day I harvested it. This is the way I hunt and this is why I hunt it's in my fabric and has been ever since I was kid tagging along with my older brothers.
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Post by jman46151 on Nov 10, 2017 9:13:31 GMT -5
I think discussing how the legislature can make decisions that should be made by biologists should definitely be a topic of discussion. Another one that doesn't get a lot of attention around Indiana but could certainly affect anyone who hunts the HNF is public land transfer. National Republicans want to transfer ownership of federal land to the states. Does Indiana have enough resources to manage the additional land? What's their plan if it were to happen? There's been some nationwide exposure to this issue lately that could help bridge a gap between non hunters who hear about the loss of national monuments and hunters who would potentially lose thousands of acres to hunt.
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Post by salt on Nov 10, 2017 11:14:42 GMT -5
Hi Sarah, welcome to the site. I️ have to agree with indyqdog. I️ have a hard time with the thought of someone making the decision to not wear a harness who then falls out and becomes disabled and then collects disability for the rest of their life. I️ also knew a person who fell from his stand and died leaving his wife and children behind. We have other laws that protect us for our own safety. Why not make wearing a safety harness when in an elevated tree stand a law?
Another topic that gets discussed is whether baiting should be legalized? We can plant seed and grow clover or corn or soy beans and hunt over it. But, we can not pour a bucket of corn on the ground and hunt anywhere close to it. Yet, every big box store in Indiana sells deer bait in a wide variety of products that can’t “legally” be used while hunting. What happens to these products that sell out each and every year? I️ think most of us know the answer and don’t like to admit it.
I️ think that you will find that a lot of us “hunters” have very strong opinions when it comes to these types of issues. So much so that these types of discussions often times turn into heated arguments. Hunting is a passion. We are all very passionate hunters.
I️ would like to add that I️ reside in NE Indiana. I️ have not personally hunted in Indiana for the last 3 years. The availability of private land and the herd management policies have made it worth paying nearly $200 per year to hunt in Ohio. I️ simply do not see the quantity of deer here in Indiana that I️ regularly see just 30 miles northeast in Ohio. Now, that is not necessarily true across the state. But, it is my experience here.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Ian
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Post by throbak on Nov 10, 2017 12:24:11 GMT -5
Welcome Sarah You’ll get a good idea what it’s all about from the Serious Trophy hunter to the Old man hunters that try to pass on Their learned knowledge from years in the field you will also pick up on the great respect we have for our passions Me I’m a Food for the table type hunter!! leave the stress associated with trophy hunting in the past and hang on to the memo of those days afield !! Greg you forget Sabalow nothing anti gun about his reporting !
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Post by greghopper on Nov 10, 2017 12:48:00 GMT -5
Dale.....Where is Sabalow now?
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Post by bowman0717 on Nov 10, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5
Hi all -- First, thank you Woody for posting your initial message and introducing me to the group. Also, thanks all for the warm welcome and I really appreciate those of you who have responded so far for sharing some of your thoughts with me. I certainly am jotting down some mental notes and ideas from your comments and may reach out to a couple folks to get some more information and just to learn more about the passion and purpose that drives you (as some of view mentioned or spoke a bit about).
And keep the comments coming, as well as any questions you may have for me. To answer one of the last questions: Sabalow is out in California right now working at the paper the Sacramento Bee.
P.S. -- If anyone wants to reach out individually, please feel free to message me on the forum or you can also email me at sarah.bowman@indystar.com or give me a call/text at 317-294-7221.
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Post by hatchetjack on Nov 10, 2017 16:32:05 GMT -5
Dale.....Where is Sabalow now? He moved back to California. Sarah - I follow several different issues at the DNR. Foremost right now is the forestry issue and the flim-flam being orchestrated from Monroe County. Their goal is halt all logging on all state properties effectively ending all authority of the Division of Forestry. I often describe myself as a grouse hunter and just got another puppy. Gamebirds in Indiana are really quite poor. We kill 120,000+ deer each year in the state but only around 20,000 pheasants. Quail are in serious decline. There are a few woodcock passing through Indiana from the north but the flights only last a short time. With birds so bad you'd be surprized at the number of bird hunters in this state. The national headquarters for many bird hunters is in Amo, IN. The National Shoot To Retrieve Association (NSTRA) holds many trials and awards many national and regional titles each year. In fact I just remembered that the DNR in conjunction with Pheasants Forever is sponsoring a Ladies Hunt on November 18th @ Atterbury Fish & Wildlife Area. I can get you into the hunt or in contact with the gentleman running that hunt. Pheasants Forever in Indianapolis is focused on introducing youth and women into bird hunting. To that end we have several opportunities for non-hunters and beginning hunters to get behind some incredible bird dogs each year. Someone mentioned the legislature. I follow them closely from December until they shut down. Sometimes they even need watching during the summer sessions. Recently the legislature has decided they could introduce high power rifles into Indiana when the DNR would not. Well, they screwed that up royally. Speaking of the DNR they have regular meetings every other month with their oversite committee the Natural Resources Commission. Their next meeting is next Tuesday at Ft. Harrison. I could go on and on but just contact me and we'll go from there. Hatchet Jack
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Post by featherduster on Nov 10, 2017 17:00:55 GMT -5
Sarah, when you complete your article please be sure to post it on this site so that all of us can read it. BTW this site is not just about deer we do mushrooms,fishing,ect ect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 18:05:12 GMT -5
Sarah, when you complete your article please be sure to post it on this site so that all of can read it. BTW this site is not just about deer we do mushrooms,fishing,ect ect. Well we don't "do mushrooms" but we do harvest them lol.
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Post by treetop on Nov 10, 2017 18:16:50 GMT -5
Welcome
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