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Post by esshup on Jul 16, 2019 9:55:38 GMT -5
Mouse poison. Yeah, I hear get cats. There are more than 3 but less than 1/2 dozen here, but I only see them on trail cameras, never in person, they are that feral. The are not doing their job. The bunny population is down, but not the mouse population. At least they aren't spraying in the buildings any more, so I'm leaving them be for now. Anyway...
Tractor supply has basically 2 choices, Tomcat with Bromethalin Bait Chunx, 4 lb. Pail, 22244 and Tomcat All-Weather Bait Chunx, 4 lb. Pail of 1 oz. Chunx, 32444 which uses the active ingredient Diphacinone.
These will be placed inside the outbuildings, or in an area that is sheltered from the weather.
Which works better? or maybe the question should be why use one vs. the other? Rats aren't a problem, it's the mice.
And yes, I am fully aware that I have to keep a close eye on the dog so she doesn't find a dead mouse.
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Post by jbird on Jul 16, 2019 11:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jul 16, 2019 11:28:58 GMT -5
Any reason you have to poison them vs the old school trap that kills instantly?
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Post by beermaker on Jul 16, 2019 11:29:36 GMT -5
Mouse poison. Yeah, I hear get cats. There are more than 3 but less than 1/2 dozen here, but I only see them on trail cameras, never in person, they are that feral. The are not doing their job. The bunny population is down, but not the mouse population. At least they aren't spraying in the buildings any more, so I'm leaving them be for now. Anyway... Tractor supply has basically 2 choices, Tomcat with Bromethalin Bait Chunx, 4 lb. Pail, 22244 and Tomcat All-Weather Bait Chunx, 4 lb. Pail of 1 oz. Chunx, 32444 which uses the active ingredient Diphacinone. These will be placed inside the outbuildings, or in an area that is sheltered from the weather. Which works better? or maybe the question should be why use one vs. the other? Rats aren't a problem, it's the mice. And yes, I am fully aware that I have to keep a close eye on the dog so she doesn't find a dead mouse. Better known as "killing two birds with one stone." A friend of mine set aside a couple acres of his horse pasture and planted it in wildlife habitat. His main objective was to have a place to train his beagles. The bunnies slowly disappeared. He thought it was either fox or coyotes. Wrong, damn cats. He set up some cameras and nothing but cats sneaking around. They were quickly dispatched once he patterned their behavior.
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Post by esshup on Jul 16, 2019 11:51:32 GMT -5
Thanks!! I see the biggest advantage to the first poison is a single feeding will get 'em.
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Post by esshup on Jul 16, 2019 11:56:23 GMT -5
Any reason you have to poison them vs the old school trap that kills instantly? 1) Time required to check all the traps I'd have to set, I have a number of outbuildings 2) Some areas where the poison could be tossed are virtually not accessible to place and maintain traps. One area is a false floor I built in one building to get anything on the floor up and above any high water events. 3) I also found that any ants can clean off peanut butter from the traps. 4) Chipmunks and red squirrels are seen and I want them controlled too if it comes to that.
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Post by esshup on Jul 16, 2019 12:04:48 GMT -5
I don't like poison because of the non-target animal threat. But I've given up on trying other methods as they just aren't as effective. I have a number of outbuildings and I've tried traps, feeding the feral cats to entice them to stick around, making sure the weeds and grass is trimmed back, etc., etc.
The house is an OLD farmhouse, built in the 1800's and due to the building practices and additions over the years it cannot be made rodent proof without more time and $$ than I can spend. The war on them escalates greatly when mouse turds are found in a kitchen drawer or they are heard running in a inside wall or chewing is heard at night.
I've fought this problem since 2003, and I have tried to find all the areas where they could get in, but they are smarter than I am. Then you have the multiple outbuildings. The barn is probably as old as the house, the main upright posts in the barn are tree trunks with the branches lopped off.
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Post by jbird on Jul 16, 2019 12:56:38 GMT -5
if you do a search you can find some DIY passive traps (most use a 5 gallon bucket) that may be an alternative for you as well. Search on the internet will find some interesting things. Found one where a guy was electrocuting them! it was like a bug zapper...but for mice!!!! Sizzle, sizzle! Is it bad that I laughed?!?
I just avoid poison as I have had the dog get into it....twice, and I don't like the other risks of other animals getting it either.
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Post by greghopper on Jul 16, 2019 13:35:37 GMT -5
Tomcat makes a bait you can use vs peanutbutter ... safe non toxic!
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 16, 2019 14:12:47 GMT -5
We alternate between hawk and jaguar at work. They are both made by motomco. Not sure what poison is contained in them but they sure do kill mice and they seem to eat them up pretty quick especially the first week we rotate. Bait stations are cheap insurance to help keep kids and unintended victims out.
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Post by esshup on Jul 16, 2019 15:25:45 GMT -5
We alternate between hawk and jaguar at work. They are both made by motomco. Not sure what poison is contained in them but they sure do kill mice and they seem to eat them up pretty quick especially the first week we rotate. Bait stations are cheap insurance to help keep kids and unintended victims out. Thanks. I made bait stations where anything that wasn't supposed to could possibly get to the bait, and I just keep an eye on her so she doesn't grab a dead mouse. I killed about 50 pheasants one year that I was raising by poisoning mice with De-Con. The dang birds were eating the mice after they died, or the mice were slow enough that they could catch them. I KNOW that was happening because I saw a pheasant walking around with one in it's beak.....
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 16, 2019 15:52:38 GMT -5
Also, Most of time we hang on a nail that the bait just slides over.
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Post by parrothead on Jul 16, 2019 17:16:08 GMT -5
I made one using a bucket and wire and small piece of PVC pipe. Put peanut butter as bait. Works really well.
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Post by parrothead on Jul 16, 2019 17:17:43 GMT -5
Google mouse trap bucket.
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Post by Sasquatch on Jul 16, 2019 22:44:14 GMT -5
I have good luck with Decon. They make an all-weather form that comes in little green cubes. It is usually sold with a little plastic "Mouse motel" that lets the little buggers get at the bait but keeps it away from curious pets.
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