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Post by span870 on Jan 10, 2021 7:42:16 GMT -5
Work finally slowing down and finally get some time to run the hounds heavy. But hold on there fella.
Week ago noticed my absolute best jump dog, yes the type that will jump a bunny is a Walmart parking lot was coughing and losing weight not wanting to eat. Off to vet he goes. Three days in on iv just to stabilize him. We had three possible diagnosis as his lungs look like a train wreck. Blastomycosis, histoplasmosis, fungal pneumonia. At that point is was hoping for a heartworm diagnosis as its way easier to treat. Blasto is a nasty virus and not a great outcome. Well that came back negative. Heartworm came back negative. Waiting on the histo diagnosis now but treating for all three. Histo is caused by bird droppings and guess what their kennels are next to? Yep the chicken yard. Now I have to move and rebuild all the kennels. Making matters worse is he came back positive for Lyme's. On a normal scale not that big of an issue. Most hounds will test positive but only a 10% show symptoms. Have two now and you wouldn't tell. But it slows the recovery from the other issues.
Okay, so he's out of the rotation but still have several left. Sitting in the house last night heard a ruckus. Ran outside and all you know what was breaking lose. The next two in the lineup were in a knock down drag out fight. Crazy thing is they are running mates and pretty tight as far as bonding goes. Both these are big, powerful males. Blue dog came out on top with minor injuries. Lemon dog has a gash in his rear leg 1.5" long showing muscle. Out with the antibiotic shots and blue-kote and in the "sick dog" kennel.
Anyway, long story but guess who ain't running hounds for several more weeks
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Post by scrub-buster on Jan 10, 2021 8:44:26 GMT -5
Hope they heal fast for you
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Post by budd on Jan 10, 2021 9:10:04 GMT -5
Well that just sucks. Ive dealt with Lymes more times than I can remember, blasto is a killer or VERY expensive treatment. Histoplasmosis is nasty as well, that is what caused my brother to go blind in his mid 20's. All us kids worked on the neighbors egg farm. Good luck my friend, guess you will be soloing your dogs for awhile...LOL I've had some dogs suddenly not take a liking to each other and would always end up in a fight on the walk back to the truck, I ended up removing the dog with the lesser talent from the pack.
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Post by span870 on Jan 10, 2021 11:40:58 GMT -5
Well that just sucks. Ive dealt with Lymes more times than I can remember, blasto is a killer or VERY expensive treatment. Histoplasmosis is nasty as well, that is what caused my brother to go blind in his mid 20's. All us kids worked on the neighbors egg farm. Good luck my friend, guess you will be soloing your dogs for awhile...LOL I've had some dogs suddenly not take a liking to each other and would always end up in a fight on the walk back to the truck, I ended up removing the dog with the lesser talent from the pack. Yeah we don't do that solo silliness around here. Creme rise to the top and all that. We have a good vet and he's keeping the cost to a sensible level but not cheap to treat any of the three. As far as moving the one with less talent, these are my top three. The third is the sick one. The two that got into the fight last night are about as good a dog as I snapped a leash on. Both big swinging, stupid fast dogs. Both have numerous catches to their credit. Doubt either leave. Just need to keep separate until it settles down.
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Post by genesis273 on Jan 10, 2021 12:05:41 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about all that. Hopefully they recover well and fast!
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Post by budd on Jan 10, 2021 14:52:28 GMT -5
I never ran my dogs solo either. Did manage to get in a lot of debates over it though...lmao
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Post by Sasquatch on Jan 10, 2021 18:16:44 GMT -5
Those critters are keeping ya busy! I never figured they would fight like that. Were there ladies around?
Histoplasmos is supposed to be more common down here in the Ohio Valley. My wife's Aunt is virtually blind because of it. Wears these star wars-looking binocular things when she wants to see something.
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Post by duff on Jan 10, 2021 18:18:35 GMT -5
Never knew histoplasmosis causes blindness. I thought it was isolated to lungs.
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Post by span870 on Jan 10, 2021 18:49:06 GMT -5
I never ran my dogs solo either. Did manage to get in a lot of debates over it though...lmao Man I could argue all day about solo. I always say, "they up front all day the same as soloing". I imagine it could help build confidence to a degree but if I take a dog that runs a good 6mph on the Garmin all day and run him with two solid dogs that run 4, he'll solo. My best dog will absolutely not solo. Won't do much but stiff weeds and chew sticks. You out any other dog down, no matter the breed, you won't see him all day. I tried and tried. Called a buddy of mine that's a big little pack trialer. He told me, it's boring, dog knows it's boring, so forget it. Does the dog run rabbits. Told him what dog it was and he said, yeah wouldn't worry. I have several real competitive dogs and they don't want to solo. You put my husky out there with em and they'll run all day long.
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Post by span870 on Jan 10, 2021 18:52:34 GMT -5
Those critters are keeping ya busy! I never figured they would fight like that. Were there ladies around? Histoplasmos is supposed to be more common down here in the Ohio Valley. My wife's Aunt is virtually blind because of it. Wears these star wars-looking binocular things when she wants to see something. Ladies are all fixed and yeah they'll tear each other up the mood strikes. No idea why these two went at it as they are usually the most calm. Both are big powerful males and luckily caught it quick. Not typical beagles most keep. budd can probably tell you since I believe he keeps hare dogs. 15"+ males and they'll run constant 7+ mph all day and can top out at 20+ miles in a day. 90% of the time is fighting to stay in front. They run to catch, not chase. Worst fight I ever had though ended up having to take my female to the vet for stitches. Vet looked and immediately said, both females. Yep. She said worse fights she sees are two females. Males will fight until dominance is established, females will fight to win. It's usually 6 month rotation. Keep meds on hand.
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Post by span870 on Jan 10, 2021 19:14:29 GMT -5
Those critters are keeping ya busy! I never figured they would fight like that. Were there ladies around? Histoplasmos is supposed to be more common down here in the Ohio Valley. My wife's Aunt is virtually blind because of it. Wears these star wars-looking binocular things when she wants to see something. I know Blasto is mainly Ohio river valley, mississippi river valley, all up into Alberta. Causes by moist rotting undergrowth that doesn't dry out and they injest the spores. Hounds are the worse because of nose to the ground all the time. Histo I didn't think was regional coming from birds but idk.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2021 21:27:21 GMT -5
May of 2019 my cat Kasey had lost a lot of weight. He is getting up in years so we just thought it was the aging process. He was off his feed big time. He passed some blood and what looked like pus in his urine so we took him to the vet. She ran a complete blood work up on him. In addition to a bladder infection he had histoplasmosis and hyperthyroidism. She prescribed medicine for the infection, the histoplasmosis and the hyperthyroidism. He did not get any better and would not eat. We decided to put him down but it was Memorial Day weekend.
I dug his grave on Memorial Day with plans to out him down on Tuesday. Tuesday morning I got up early and the little sucker had ate half his bowl of food. I called the vet and she says if he is eating he can beat it.
Well he beat it and is laying beside me on the couch right now.
He will be 16 in January.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 11, 2021 8:47:45 GMT -5
We used to run dogs but only had 2 males and a female. Always kept the males seperated except to hunt. They would "fight" through the fence or the wall of the dog box but it seemed like they would be all about the rabbits once we opened the dog box.
So if your dog has lymes can a tick bite them then some how get on you and give it to you? We were never concerned with it I was just 12 or 13 and I'm not sure it was in the area yet.
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Post by span870 on Jan 12, 2021 5:31:05 GMT -5
We used to run dogs but only had 2 males and a female. Always kept the males seperated except to hunt. They would "fight" through the fence or the wall of the dog box but it seemed like they would be all about the rabbits once we opened the dog box. So if your dog has lymes can a tick bite them then some how get on you and give it to you? We were never concerned with it I was just 12 or 13 and I'm not sure it was in the area yet. I'd assume, yes. Ticks don't die when they bite and if by some chance the same one went from dog to you then yes. Lyme's isn't a huge concern to me in my hounds. We treat them to prevent ticks on them but it's not foolproof. University of Pennsylvania did a study in high tick infestation areas. Over 90% of hounds tested positive for Lyme's disease but only ten percent showed symptoms. I have three that I know are positive only because of other issues and when at vet they were tested and can back, oh btw they have Lyme's. We treat when they show symptoms. Good buddy of mine who's a vet told me a lot of times the treatment does more harm than the actual disease and to just treat the symptoms. Somehow either dogs fight the disease internally or it just doesn't effect them.
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Post by budd on Jan 12, 2021 7:46:57 GMT -5
We used to run dogs but only had 2 males and a female. Always kept the males seperated except to hunt. They would "fight" through the fence or the wall of the dog box but it seemed like they would be all about the rabbits once we opened the dog box. So if your dog has lymes can a tick bite them then some how get on you and give it to you? We were never concerned with it I was just 12 or 13 and I'm not sure it was in the area yet. I'd assume, yes. Ticks don't die when they bite and if by some chance the same one went from dog to you then yes. Lyme's isn't a huge concern to me in my hounds. We treat them to prevent ticks on them but it's not foolproof. University of Pennsylvania did a study in high tick infestation areas. Over 90% of hounds tested positive for Lyme's disease but only ten percent showed symptoms. I have three that I know are positive only because of other issues and when at vet they were tested and can back, oh btw they have Lyme's. We treat when they show symptoms. Good buddy of mine who's a vet told me a lot of times the treatment does more harm than the actual disease and to just treat the symptoms. Somehow either dogs fight the disease internally or it just doesn't effect them. When you could buy bird doxy cheap over the internet I would keep a few hundred pills on hand at all times. Would treat my whole kennel twice a summer for a 14 days.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 12, 2021 21:55:52 GMT -5
Kasey Cat after his recovery
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 13, 2021 0:01:39 GMT -5
I thought that was Kasey. We lost my buddy Fraidy who was marked very similar to Kasey two months ago. He was 13, and had been very healthy most of his life, with one bout of urinary tract infection about ten years ago that could have been a close call but we got him to a vet just in time.
He just started getting finicky about his eating when he had always been an eager eater, and after switching brands and types of food several times he seemed to be eating well again but I noticed he wasn't regaining weight after eating well again. I checked his litter box and every thing looked normal. Started reading the net for clues and and nothing popped up in the way of treatment or diagnosis. He just kept losing weight and finally strength until he was unable to jump up and lay on my chair arm with me which had become his favorite place the last couple years. He never would come on over onto my lap, after years of coaxing.
Then one day as I was going out to the mailbox he shot past me to get out. He was always an in-and-out cat, but hadn't shown much interest in going out for a month or so. I kind of suspected he might be getting out to die in private, but there had been no sign of pain or discomfort, just weight loss and weakness the last week or so. When he wasn't on the porch again when I called him an hour later, I went looking for him and found him resting in the sun out in the back yard . Sat down close by and spoke to him, and finally lifted him and put him on my lap. He didn't fight the move, and seemed to settle quickly into being comfortable again as I stroked him for about ten minutes, and then he kind of jerked once and stopped breathing. After 13 years of gaining his trust and trying everything I could think of to make him a lap cat, he was, for about ten minutes.
Sure miss that little guy. We'd chased and fought him for more than an hour to get him to the vet that time with the UTI, and I figured the stress would likely have killed him at his age and reduced strength, as he had never become much more tame around others except our son and daughter-in-law, so I never got him to a vet again. Might have had a few more years with him if I had, but might have just made him very miserable for a while with little benefit. Never know.
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