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Post by ms660 on Jan 30, 2022 20:22:33 GMT -5
Why would you go to work at 35,000 for them if you had student loans you never would make enough to pay them off. IDK not that long ago you could make it at 35,000 not all that great but could be done at what stuff cost today you be dang close to poverty. I went to Kroger yesterday and spent 65 bucks and that’s no meat pop chips or that kind of stuff basically just your weekly stuff milk coffee bread some fruit and veggies, and then I went and put 80 bucks in gas in my truck If you work for the government and make payments on your loans, the balance will be waived after 10 years. The state also has a pension plan (10 years vesting) , health benefits are cheaper than most places, and it is stable. It's also great training for someone to work for a few years, then go to the private sector and make some $$$. Also, it's great for working families that need flexibility and time off. People take these jobs because they love the work and they believe in what they are doing. There are amazingly smart, dedicated people working for the state because they believe in the cause. However, the longer you are there the more the BS politics wear you down and you lose faith in the cause. Then some of the appointed positions are mind blowing. You basically have to choose time and no money, or money and no time. It's great for dual income families, but not so much single income households. Government has it's benefits, but the salary ain't one of them! I got a job at our county highway department at age 20. I worked there for 15 years until I was 35. When I quit I was getting 56 paid days off from work. I am now 57 years old. If I would have stayed working at the highway department I probably would only actually be working about 6 months out of the year but only making about 35k a year. Quitting that job was the dumbest thing I have done in my life ( because we all know that sweat from a county worker will kill a cutworm). (inside joke LOL). The job I'm working now I get 17 days off a year and work my butt off. Yes, I am making more money, but I am getting older and it is getting hard for me to do my job now. I have at least 5 more years to work.
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Post by duff on Jan 30, 2022 21:00:51 GMT -5
I worked for the state. Wore tank top and sandals, drove an air boat, shocked fish, collected water samples, lived in hotels 2 or 3 nights a week. Only worked 37.5 hrs a week so during field season usually left for the weekend by 10 am on Thursday.
Why did I leave again?
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 30, 2022 22:14:07 GMT -5
Money money money! My college buddy took a job at division of water driving around in the lil suv smoking rope looking for floodway violations all day. Got tired of being broke and moved to Vegas to make 4x what he was at a big civil firm. Not sure he was any happier though.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 31, 2022 6:17:11 GMT -5
17 holidays, 6 weeks vacation. Get all the OT Or comp I want. 8 hours of sick leave a month. Longevity pay. 50 bucks for healthcare monthly. Never paid for any medication . Low co pays or 0 in network for dr visits. Free Teladoc for illness. Vested after 10. Say it’s pretty good. May not be rich but I get paid for a ton of time off. That’s important to me.
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Post by jman46151 on Jan 31, 2022 8:42:22 GMT -5
My son Sam girlfriend will be graduating this spring as a biologist. Maybe she can that new job? I would not be one bit surprised if they aren't engaged by years end. The problem is the state is a revolving door because the pay is crap. I just left IDEM after 15 years, and IDEM pays better than DNR for the same level position. There are currently all kinds of open positions at the state. Last time I checked the job bank, IDEM had 30 positions posted. Normally Section Chiefs have to fight to get permission to fill positions. They are so under staffed it's ridiculous ... but they are only offering ~$38,500/yr for environmental managers. A DNR biologist would hire in probably ~$35,000 I spoke with a biologist that works at a non-profit about this in November. He said he started out at his org making the same amount as a classmate who had been with the State for years.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 31, 2022 12:36:04 GMT -5
I believe it's safe to say that the general assembly doesn't fund the state workers of any department very well.
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 31, 2022 23:51:40 GMT -5
Why would you go to work at 35,000 for them if you had student loans you never would make enough to pay them off. IDK not that long ago you could make it at 35,000 not all that great but could be done at what stuff cost today you be dang close to poverty. I went to Kroger yesterday and spent 65 bucks and that’s no meat pop chips or that kind of stuff basically just your weekly stuff milk coffee bread some fruit and veggies, and then I went and put 80 bucks in gas in my truck If you work for the government and make payments on your loans, the balance will be waived after 10 years. The state also has a pension plan (10 years vesting) , health benefits are cheaper than most places, and it is stable. It's also great training for someone to work for a few years, then go to the private sector and make some $$$. Also, it's great for working families that need flexibility and time off. People take these jobs because they love the work and they believe in what they are doing. There are amazingly smart, dedicated people working for the state because they believe in the cause. However, the longer you are there the more the BS politics wear you down and you lose faith in the cause. Then some of the appointed positions are mind blowing. You basically have to choose time and no money, or money and no time. It's great for dual income families, but not so much single income households. Government has it's benefits, but the salary ain't one of them! This is all true. I worked for the state for 17 years made section chief at IDEM and finally Division Director at IDOH. The private sector came calling and offered me a bag full of money to work for them which I did for 14 years. I was able to completely retire at age 56. The state is a great training ground much like the military. The real money is in the private sector.
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Post by treetop on Feb 1, 2022 15:09:17 GMT -5
17 holidays, 6 weeks vacation. Get all the OT Or comp I want. 8 hours of sick leave a month. Longevity pay. 50 bucks for healthcare monthly. Never paid for any medication . Low co pays or 0 in network for dr visits. Free Teladoc for illness. Vested after 10. Say it’s pretty good. May not be rich but I get paid for a ton of time off. That’s important to me. I had no idea you could get that much time off makes me think I knew about health care being lower cost and pension both of those I have to cover being self employed you either have to sell your company or have your own 401 or both. Health Care is ridiculous to say the least not to mention the 7300 deductible I have to pay
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Feb 1, 2022 15:35:34 GMT -5
17 holidays, 6 weeks vacation. Get all the OT Or comp I want. 8 hours of sick leave a month. Longevity pay. 50 bucks for healthcare monthly. Never paid for any medication . Low co pays or 0 in network for dr visits. Free Teladoc for illness. Vested after 10. Say it’s pretty good. May not be rich but I get paid for a ton of time off. That’s important to me. I had no idea you could get that much time off makes me think I knew about health care being lower cost and pension both of those I have to cover being self employed you either have to sell your company or have your own 401 or both. Health Care is ridiculous to say the least not to mention the 7300 deductible I have to pay Used to a dollar for health care for years. Slowly gone up. 50 bucks is for the whole family.
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