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Post by greghopper on May 26, 2022 18:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by MuzzleLoader on May 26, 2022 18:58:09 GMT -5
The 18-year-old gunman was not confronted by a school resource officer outside the building, officials now say, and he apparently entered through an unlocked door. Police officers who arrived and confronted the shooter called for more resources, an official said. After about an hour, tactical teams forced entry and fatally shot the suspect, officials said as questions about the timeline continue to surface.
Doesn’t look good for Law Enforcements delay in entering/confronting shooter.
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Post by Huntnfreak on May 26, 2022 19:08:08 GMT -5
The 18-year-old gunman was not confronted by a school resource officer outside the building, officials now say, and he apparently entered through an unlocked door. Police officers who arrived and confronted the shooter called for more resources, an official said. After about an hour, tactical teams forced entry and fatally shot the suspect, officials said as questions about the timeline continue to surface. Doesn’t look good for Law Enforcements delay in entering/confronting shooter. Something wasn’t adding up in my mind with the initial reports....
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Post by greghopper on May 26, 2022 19:12:28 GMT -5
Guess we will never know what could of been if Door had been properly locked.
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Post by Sasquatch on May 26, 2022 19:14:48 GMT -5
My Lord I just read a headline that said the guy was shooting OUTSIDE for 12 minutes before entering a still unlocked door. I couldn't even read the article. What the hell
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Post by freedomhunter on May 26, 2022 19:26:32 GMT -5
Just another cover up for cowards that wont do their job because they are afraid to die. It just takes one selfless trained person
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Post by Woody Williams on May 26, 2022 20:15:12 GMT -5
I thought the police learned their lesson with Columbine ?
I thought it was don’t wait for back up. Go in and engage the perp immediately.
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Post by jjas on May 26, 2022 20:27:14 GMT -5
I thought the police learned their lesson with Columbine ? I thought it was don’t wait for back up. Go in and engage the perp immediately. That's my understanding as well. Instead of waiting, go in and engage the shooter.
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Post by freedomhunter on May 26, 2022 20:40:17 GMT -5
Just how hard to get the drop on that idiot firing wildly outside for 10 minutes? Guess no one in Texas within earshot has a gun? Pretty smelly
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Post by genesis273 on May 26, 2022 21:26:34 GMT -5
Bunch of people unwilling to put their lives on the line but, have no problem sitting in their lazy boys judging those who do.
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Post by greghopper on May 26, 2022 21:34:50 GMT -5
Bunch of people unwilling to put their lives on the line but, have no problem sitting in their lazy boys judging those who do. That’s Right….
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Post by firstwd on May 26, 2022 21:58:41 GMT -5
The biggest problem now is there are too many time lines of events coming fr9m "official" sources.
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Post by boman on May 26, 2022 22:57:53 GMT -5
11:15 a.m.: The gunman sends a message on Facebook declaring, "I'm going to shoot an elementary school."
11:28 a.m.: McCraw says that the shooter drove about 2 miles to Robb Elementary in his grandmother's truck. When he crashed the vehicle near the school, authorities say, he exited the vehicle through a passenger side. He was carrying a rifle and a backpack full of ammunition.
According to a Thursday press conference with Texas Department of Public Safety regional director Victor Escalon, the gunman shot at two bystanders at a nearby funeral home, but they ran away uninjured.
11:32 a.m.: By all accounts, the gunman entered the school on the west side of the campus at this time, scales a fence and enters the parking lot. Shots were fired.
During Thursday's press conference, Escalon claimed that police did not engage with the shooter at this time, and he was just shooting "at the school." Previous press briefings and witness statements had claimed that police had a firefight with the gunman.
11:40 a.m.: The gunman enters west side of the school through a door that may or may not have been unlocked, Texas Department of Public Safety regional director Victor Escalon said in Thursday's press conference.
The shooter heads down a series of short hallways before entering a classroom that is connected to other classrooms. He finds one full of students. Inside, he opens fire, killing 21 people.
11:43 a.m.: Robb Elementary School posts on Facebook that the campus is on lockdown "due to gunshots in the area." The Uvalde Police Department shares similar information on Facebook.
11:44 a.m.: Local police and the district police officer enter the school and hear gunfire. Escalon says in a press conference that they initially didn't enter the classroom due to the gunfire. They fell back and called in backup, while others evacuated students and teachers.
In a conflicting account, Steven McCraw, director Texas Department of Public Safety, said that several law enforcement agencies — including Uvalde police — converged on the classroom, broke open the door, and exchanged fire with the shooter to "keep him pinned down at that location."
12:17 p.m.: The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District announces the shooting on social media: "There is an active shooter at Robb Elementary. Law enforcement is on site," they write on Facebook. "Your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. As soon as more information is gathered it will be shared. The rest of the district is under a Secure Status."
12:23 p.m.: Robb Elementary School parents are told by automated phone messages to pick up their children at Sgt. Willie de Leon Civic Center, about 1.3 miles away from the school. Students and teachers are transported via school bus.
Approximately 12:45 p.m.: Border patrol and tactical teams arrive at the scene. They enter the school and kill the shooter, who has been in the building for approximately an hour.
1:06 p.m.: The Uvalde Police Department initially reports the suspect is "in police custody," before amending the statement to reflect that he had been killed by officers.
Read the original article on People
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Post by freedomhunter on May 27, 2022 2:55:38 GMT -5
Bunch of people unwilling to put their lives on the line but, have no problem sitting in their lazy boys judging those who do. Plenty of people ready to do that who aren't leo especially in Texas I dont get your point. I have helped someone I didnt have to does that make me less than someone else because I dont have a badge?
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Post by span870 on May 27, 2022 3:21:00 GMT -5
Bunch of people unwilling to put their lives on the line but, have no problem sitting in their lazy boys judging those who do. I don't think anyone is judging those who do. I think many are judging those who didn't
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Post by parrothead on May 27, 2022 4:40:17 GMT -5
Where were the principal and assistant principal?
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Post by greghopper on May 27, 2022 5:33:00 GMT -5
Just how hard to get the drop on that idiot firing wildly outside for 10 minutes? Guess no one in Texas within earshot has a gun? Pretty smelly Folks were most likely at work that time of day and getting a drop on someone with a HPR 223 is not all that easy… maybe if he only had a hand gun yeah! Didn’t the shooter have body armor also?
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Post by freedomhunter on May 27, 2022 7:22:21 GMT -5
Just how hard to get the drop on that idiot firing wildly outside for 10 minutes? Guess no one in Texas within earshot has a gun? Pretty smelly Folks were most likely at work that time of day and getting a drop on someone with a HPR 223 is not all that easy… maybe if he only had a hand gun yeah! Didn’t the shooter have body armor also? That is when to use the chrome horn if he is out in the open
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Post by Woody Williams on May 27, 2022 7:46:25 GMT -5
All I’m saying is after Columbine where the police sat outside listening to gunshots the general LEO consensus was to go in and engage the perp immediately and not wait for back up.
I have an LEO in my family that is on the SWAT team in Evansville. He has three kids and I’m sure if he was told to stand down in a school shooting he would follow orders but would not like it a bit.
I don’t have a Lazy Boy but if I’m in a mass shouting situation, like the grocery store shooting, I’m running towards the shooting as fast as these old legs would go. I’m 83 (soon) and I’ve lived a full life. I would stand between the shooter and another person…gun in hand and firing away of course. Whether I kill him or he kills me it would buy time for others to run away. No greater love ….
Kudus to the mom who went in and rescued her kids.
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Post by greghopper on May 27, 2022 8:02:13 GMT -5
All I’m saying is after Columbine where the police sat outside listening to gunshots the general LEO consensus was to go in and engage the perp immediately and not wait for back up. I have an LEO in my family that is on the SWAT team in Evansville. He has three kids and I’m sure if he was told to stand down in a school shooting he would follow orders but would not like it a bit. I don’t have a Lazy Boy but if I’m in a mass shouting situation, like the grocery store shooting, I’m running towards the shooting as fast as these old legs would go. I’m 83 (soon) and I’ve lived a full life. I would stand between the shooter and another person…gun in hand and firing away of course. Whether I kill him or he kills me it would buy time for others to run away. No greater love …. Kudus to the mom who went in and rescued her kids. Kudos to you for defending others in that situation…. Most folks will protect their self and family only.Every situation is different but it also doesn’t make them a “Coward “ for not playing cop also IMO
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