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Post by hatchetjack on Sept 12, 2023 9:44:21 GMT -5
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 12, 2023 10:13:17 GMT -5
I would support banning lead.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 12, 2023 10:54:26 GMT -5
It's the camel's nose under the tent... hunting's death by a thousand cuts and some in our DNR is helping it along. |
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 12, 2023 11:49:41 GMT -5
#1- Why would the DNR include deer as being hunted with lead shot in Indiana?
#2- The petition was to ban the sale of lead shot in Indiana. What has that got to do with comparing the price of jacketed and copper large-game rifle ammo?
Somebody went down some rabbit holes that they should not have with this "study" on the petition.
Glad the response was that it is out of their jurisdiction for this petition and their solution was to put info about alternatives on a website.
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 12, 2023 11:52:31 GMT -5
I would support banning lead. What are you going to use in your rimfire? I know of only one 22LR offering from CCI. That's going to put a pretty high demand on one source of ammo. And don't know of any for the 17 HMR or 17 Mach II. If they ban lead, they better let me spend 50 years getting rid of what I spent 50 years accumulating. |
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Post by deadeer on Sept 12, 2023 22:29:49 GMT -5
I would support banning lead. What are you going to use in your rimfire? I know of only one 22LR offering from CCI. That's going to put a pretty high demand on one source of ammo. And don't know of any for the 17 HMR or 17 Mach II. If they ban lead, they better let me spend 50 years getting rid of what I spent 50 years accumulating. Yep, same here, and I ain't handing it over. |
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 13, 2023 5:55:57 GMT -5
I would support to help the environment. We have known this info for years.  |
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 13, 2023 9:46:30 GMT -5
Seems for every study calling for the ban of lead one can find a study that says lead passes through the digestive system of animals NOT having a gizzard (and humans included) with little to no lead toxicity. That makes that wholely inconclusive. So we're left with birds as being the major receipients of lead shot or fragments in what they are ingesting and it remaining in the gizzard to result in lead poisoning.
I don't know about you, but I'm seeing more raptors now than ever. And with every pull of the trigger there is more lead above ground for them to be able to ingest. So what I'm observing is ever-increasing amounts of available lead and higher populations of the birds that would be affected by ingesting that lead. To me that indicates that this issue is being blown WAY out of proportion.
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Post by esshup on Sept 13, 2023 10:25:52 GMT -5
If they ban the sale of lead shot here in Indiana I want to get $$ from every one of the stupid people that voted for the ban to help fund buying non-toxic shot for me to shoot clay birds with. And new powder and wads to go with the non-toxic shot. Steel shot is around $55/25# bag. About the same price as lead shot. But I have roughly $1,650.00 worth of lead shot here in bags.....
I'm tired of paying money out of pocket for someone else's "better idea to help the environment" when it isn't implemented world wide. Oh, it's for the birds. OK. Tell me what birds it will help and prove to me that they don't fly out of state for their whole life.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 13, 2023 14:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Sept 13, 2023 17:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 13, 2023 17:34:05 GMT -5
I just deleted a few posts.
Personal attacks will not be tolerated PERIOD.
Discuss the subject but don't go getting personal. |
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Post by greghopper on Sept 13, 2023 17:44:05 GMT -5
This is why we should help people in other states dealing with this crap. Because it ends you trying to show its head here.
It's gun control dressed up in different clothes, always has been, always will be.…..Hopefully DNR cuts it off at the knees!
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Post by greghopper on Sept 14, 2023 17:00:57 GMT -5
Little birdie told me today that the Person who filled the citizens petition is also the person involved in trying to stop coyote killing contest.
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Post by hatchetjack on Sept 19, 2023 5:59:39 GMT -5
Anyone going to the NRC meeting today please report back as I am playing in a golf tournament.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 19, 2023 7:35:05 GMT -5
I say the anti Hunting groups will show their faces today…. Looks like the DNR has answered their questions. Good or Bad!
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