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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 29, 2006 8:01:58 GMT -5
Have you ever noticed that when someone you don't know encounters you while hunting, they always assume you are trespassing?
Yesterday evening, I was hunting out of a hang-on stand that has produced for me the last two years. This stand is located about fifty or sixty yards from the property line. From this stand I can see the nieghbor's house once the leaves drop, about 150 yards away. Deer almost never come from there, emerging instead from a Crevasse-like ravine behind the stand and the ridge the stand is on.
Now I lease these tiny 30 acres from a co-worker, and thus far it has been a good relationship. I respect the adjoining landowners boundries religiously.
So I'm sitting there, and it's just about sundown. Suddenly, here comes the nieghbor down into the woods leading several guests, including an older woman and a child, jabbering all the way. He's on his land of course, so he's fully within his rights. Incredibly, he does not see my enormous carcass barely 12 feet up in the tree until he is forty yards away. He's explaining features of the forest primeval to his city slicker companions ( this is the creek, look at this tree, etc.). Finally he spies me and says, "And there is a hunter in a tree," like he is pointing out the caveman exhibit at the museum of natural history.
I say nothing at this point, deciding that silence is more Christian than saying, "Here's your sign."
After a pause he says, "Do you know whose land you're on?"
( Translation: All hunters must be trespassers. )
Irritated, I said the landowners name, then added, "I should think you'd know who he is, since you live next to him!"
The univited guests continued to mill around and talk as I gathered my gear. Knowing that further conversation would probably only deteriorate, I got myself together, climbed down and left.
You know, I'd like to think that had I disturbed a hunter on adjoining land with taking a walk with my non-hunting, concrete-worshiping, urbanite friends, I'd at least say, "Sorry I messed up your hunt."
Jerks!
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 29, 2006 8:09:02 GMT -5
............. You know, I'd like to think that had I disturbed a hunter on adjoining land with taking a walk with my non-hunting, concrete-worshiping, urbanite friends, I'd at least say, "Sorry I messed up your hunt." Jerks! But, he wasn't sorry he messed up your hunt. That didn't bother him in the least. He probably enoyed it. Hopefully that will be your last encounter with him, but I wouldn't bet on it. Good luck..
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Post by hunter480 on Oct 29, 2006 11:26:55 GMT -5
Wow-that`s way beyond rude-in fact, he may well have told his guests after you left, about how barbaric hunters are and how he just saved an animal. Good for you though-you had the strength of charactor to do the right/difficult thing-you took the high road and left this jerk to his guests, while you simply left. You did a really good job out there.
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Post by 911 on Oct 29, 2006 15:02:17 GMT -5
Last we limited out on ducks two days in a row. This was in a somewhat populated area of Northwest Hancock County. No houses were close to where we were shooting but there are a few housing additions in the area. The farmer had no problem with us hunting the ground until all the Urbanite city folks called him and complained. So now we can no longer hunt there because of a few people just like the ones you encountered. We had one lady watch us two days in a row.
The police received two calls on us hunting out there. But with my connections i took care of that in advance. So at least we were not bothered by them either. We had a few cars drive back the access road and check out our trucks Probably getting our plate numbers.
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Post by jstalljon on Oct 30, 2006 6:23:42 GMT -5
I feel your pain Henderson....the neighbor to the south of us is one of "these people".
He has done everything from driving his tractor on the two lane to discourage deer from heading our way, to putting up barbed wire fencing right at sun up when I'm in the stand. All this was done on his property....then one day he took a stand down on our property that was right on the property line. That's when he crossed the line, and it about came to blows. I tried to be as civil as possible up until that point, but nothing worked.
It's a sad situation, but I try to deal with it as best I can, and not let it ruin my hunt. Hopefully he'll lose interest. I (knock on wood) have not had one encounter with the guy this year.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 30, 2006 6:31:04 GMT -5
Hope this dude does not mess up your hot spot. Good luck.
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Post by jwkimber45 on Oct 30, 2006 7:45:22 GMT -5
Last we limited out on ducks two days in a row. This was in a somewhat populated area of Northwest Hancock County. No houses were close to where we were shooting but there are a few housing additions in the area. The farmer had no problem with us hunting the ground until all the Urbanite city folks called him and complained. So now we can no longer hunt there because of a few people just like the ones you encountered. We had one lady watch us two days in a row. The police received two calls on us hunting out there. But with my connections i took care of that in advance. So at least we were not bothered by them either. We had a few cars drive back the access road and check out our trucks Probably getting our plate numbers. That suxs!!! Don't worry, there haven't been any birds on it this week anyway!!! LOL!!
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Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 30, 2006 10:55:08 GMT -5
... This stand is located about fifty or sixty yards from the property line. ...until he is forty yards away. ... After a pause he says, "Do you know whose land you're on?" ( Translation: All hunters must be trespassers. ) Property line = 50-60yds. Idiots = <40 yds. Who's tresspassing now?
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Post by hunter7x on Oct 30, 2006 12:16:42 GMT -5
I've had to deal with adjoining landowners before also. Not always as it seems when they're quetioning you or checking you out. I usually think the best and prepare for the worst !
As far as stands on property lins, I've taken them down before also especially when it's obvious the only direction the hunter can shoot is ONTO my property. How many hunters do you know who would not shoot across the fence?
Just playing devils advocate a little bit!
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Post by jstalljon on Oct 30, 2006 12:25:23 GMT -5
As far as stands on property lins, I've taken them down before also especially when it's obvious the only direction the hunter can shoot is ONTO my property. How many hunters do you know who would not shoot across the fence? My set up was specifically on the property line as it is the only place to put a stand...its a crossing from hardwoods to set aside field. Never intended on releasing an arrow into the woods on his side, because even if a deer expired on his property he would not let me track it....he's that much of a moron. But once he came over the fence/propertly line to take down that stand....he was trespassing...period. Would have hated to call the C.O. on you for taking my stand down 7x! ;D LOL
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Post by hunter7x on Oct 30, 2006 12:35:56 GMT -5
LOL yeah me too !
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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 30, 2006 13:02:01 GMT -5
I do not like hunting too close to property lines. When I first set this stand, I purposely set it up so that it is not facing that way. I can see in that direction and shoot to a limited degree, but not very far. Any shot onto the nieghbor's property is impossible because of terrain, stand angle, and most importantly, hunter attitude. Also, I never set a stand right on the border. What intent could there be but to shoot onto the other property? I always backtrack from where I'm positive the line is. finally, I do not hunt out of the stand with a firearm, just to avoid any questions. 7x, what makes this so irritating is that a week earlier, while sitting on a bucket 20 yards away from this stand watching the ravine behind it, a doe had walked up behind me, then continued to mess around feeding just across the property line, on the nieghbor's land. I could have shot at her, but I did not. Ironsights, I was pretty sure that the man had crossed onto "my" land, which, as you pointed out, is ironic, but it is not a straight boundry, so I didn't feel 100% sure pointing it out. But, yes, I'm pretty sure the idiot was off his own land.
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Post by Decatur on Oct 31, 2006 7:07:13 GMT -5
I'll bet you'll end up moving that stand. He'll be back.
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Post by kevin1 on Oct 31, 2006 13:16:45 GMT -5
I'll bet you'll end up moving that stand. He'll be back. Get a copy of the plat from the courthouse , which includes all of the boundaries and dimentions , and a GPS and keep them on your person for the next time the dipsheit shows up . If he starts his crap whip them out and tell him he has 5 seconds to get off of your lease or you'll have him cited for trespassing by the landowner . Having your landowner determine his property boundaries and putting up some "No Trespassing" signs wouldn't hurt either , it will send that idiot a very clear message . You're a much nicer guy than me , I'd have called a CO and had him cited for disrupting my hunt .
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Post by Decatur on Oct 31, 2006 13:18:29 GMT -5
I'll bet you'll end up moving that stand. He'll be back. I'd have called a CO and had him cited for disrupting my hunt . Good point. I DEFINATELY would call a CO if he returns, knowing full well that you hunt there!
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