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Oct 10, 2022 8:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 10, 2022 8:30:33 GMT -5
There are a few stations in the Evansville area that are around $3 but most are around $3.59.
I’m sure the lower priced stations will catch up soon . 😳
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 10, 2022 10:06:47 GMT -5
It's $4.59 here in Rensselaer.
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Oct 10, 2022 23:47:33 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 10, 2022 23:47:33 GMT -5
I’m gonna add some kerosene to it so it doesn’t gel up. Won't help.....
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Post by blackmouthcur on Oct 11, 2022 10:57:47 GMT -5
I’m gonna add some kerosene to it so it doesn’t gel up. Won't help..... Really? That’s what I’ve read they add to diesel to winterize it.
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Post by esshup on Oct 11, 2022 12:07:29 GMT -5
Really? That’s what I’ve read they add to diesel to winterize it. I'm thinking of us up here where we can see temps below zero. The Kerosene will help to a point, but then all bets are off. If you have ever had a vehicle gel up on ya, it isn't fun, and you need a heated garage to tow it to and park it in to get everything to thaw out. Some biodiesel blends start gelling at 40°F. I looked hard at making my own back in 2009, but decided against it. Here is a link that I had bookmarked. www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/blog/running-biodiesel-in-the-cold/Pay close attention to the end of the article where he talks about blending, HOW to blend and at what temps you should blend what percentage.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 11, 2022 14:38:47 GMT -5
I just use in the warmer months or mix it 50/50 with regular fuel.
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Oct 11, 2022 20:16:03 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 11, 2022 20:16:03 GMT -5
If the vehicle has some miles on it, make sure you have plenty of fuel filters and the tools to change them. Biodiesel really cleans out the fuel system and the filter catches all the junk. Also, the mpg with bio is worse than with dino oil, so make sure you figure that into your calcs. I forget how much worse. I know I lose around 10% mpg when they switch to winter fuel blend with the dino fuel.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:23:21 GMT -5
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Post by deadeer on Oct 11, 2022 22:23:21 GMT -5
My buddy uses a centrifuge to spin veggie oil to clean it. When he is done, it is clean and clear. He made a hot plate under his oil reservoir and circulate coolant thru it to warm the oil and thin it. He starts and then shuts the car off on diesel. He has it all set up on electric valves so he just flips a switch. He switches the oil off and back over to diesel approx 2 miles before he shuts it down. Has worked well thru 3 cars and several years.
You actually thin veggie oil with gasoline. It is a solvent and it is soluble. There are videos on YouTube that show it in Mason jars and it blends perfectly and never settles. Other mixes will separate and settle over time.
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Post by esshup on Oct 11, 2022 22:38:51 GMT -5
My buddy uses a centrifuge to spin veggie oil to clean it. When he is done, it is clean and clear. He made a hot plate under his oil reservoir and circulate coolant thru it to warm the oil and thin it. He starts and then shuts the car off on diesel. He has it all set up on electric valves so he just flips a switch. He switches the oil off and back over to diesel approx 2 miles before he shuts it down. Has worked well thru 3 cars and several years. You actually thin veggie oil with gasoline. It is a solvent and it is soluble. There are videos on YouTube that show it in Mason jars and it blends perfectly and never settles. Other mixes will separate and settle over time. The veggie oil is different than biodiesel (but I'm sure you knew that), but can he use the veggie oil in the winter or does he run straight diesel in the winter? I don't think he can run veggie oil in the newer computer controlled diesel motors, can he?
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Oct 11, 2022 23:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by deadeer on Oct 11, 2022 23:53:38 GMT -5
My buddy uses a centrifuge to spin veggie oil to clean it. When he is done, it is clean and clear. He made a hot plate under his oil reservoir and circulate coolant thru it to warm the oil and thin it. He starts and then shuts the car off on diesel. He has it all set up on electric valves so he just flips a switch. He switches the oil off and back over to diesel approx 2 miles before he shuts it down. Has worked well thru 3 cars and several years. You actually thin veggie oil with gasoline. It is a solvent and it is soluble. There are videos on YouTube that show it in Mason jars and it blends perfectly and never settles. Other mixes will separate and settle over time. The veggie oil is different than biodiesel (but I'm sure you knew that), but can he use the veggie oil in the winter or does he run straight diesel in the winter? I don't think he can run veggie oil in the newer computer controlled diesel motors, can he? Correct on all accounts, just adding some veggie oil info. Pretty sure he runs veggie in winter, hence the hot plate. He is not leading the charge in this. Just following others proven techniques. Very little info on newer technology injection and timing, so not pushing his luck. He did try in his tractor, and since its siphon draw, it did not run to full potential so he quit. Talked about adding a lift pump to push the oil from the tank to the injection pump, but hasnt pursued it yet. Since tractor mpg is very efficient and red diesel costing less, he (we) are good for now as is.
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Oct 12, 2022 10:22:07 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 12, 2022 10:22:07 GMT -5
The veggie oil is different than biodiesel (but I'm sure you knew that), but can he use the veggie oil in the winter or does he run straight diesel in the winter? I don't think he can run veggie oil in the newer computer controlled diesel motors, can he? Correct on all accounts, just adding some veggie oil info. Pretty sure he runs veggie in winter, hence the hot plate. He is not leading the charge in this. Just following others proven techniques. Very little info on newer technology injection and timing, so not pushing his luck. He did try in his tractor, and since its siphon draw, it did not run to full potential so he quit. Talked about adding a lift pump to push the oil from the tank to the injection pump, but hasnt pursued it yet. Since tractor mpg is very efficient and red diesel costing less, he (we) are good for now as is. That veggie oil was very popular back in 2008/2009 in the VW TDI community, but some guys experienced injection pump failures that was attributed to not cleaning the oil well enough so many guys went back to dino oil. You used to be able to buy 100% biodiesel at Bellman Oil in Bremen, IN. They kept the tank inside the heated building, not in the ground or outside.
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Oct 12, 2022 12:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Oct 12, 2022 12:16:14 GMT -5
Correct on all accounts, just adding some veggie oil info. Pretty sure he runs veggie in winter, hence the hot plate. He is not leading the charge in this. Just following others proven techniques. Very little info on newer technology injection and timing, so not pushing his luck. He did try in his tractor, and since its siphon draw, it did not run to full potential so he quit. Talked about adding a lift pump to push the oil from the tank to the injection pump, but hasnt pursued it yet. Since tractor mpg is very efficient and red diesel costing less, he (we) are good for now as is. That veggie oil was very popular back in 2008/2009 in the VW TDI community, but some guys experienced injection pump failures that was attributed to not cleaning the oil well enough so many guys went back to dino oil. You used to be able to buy 100% biodiesel at Bellman Oil in Bremen, IN. They kept the tank inside the heated building, not in the ground or outside. What is the Cetane rating on the biodiesel?
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Oct 12, 2022 23:05:03 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 12, 2022 23:05:03 GMT -5
That veggie oil was very popular back in 2008/2009 in the VW TDI community, but some guys experienced injection pump failures that was attributed to not cleaning the oil well enough so many guys went back to dino oil. You used to be able to buy 100% biodiesel at Bellman Oil in Bremen, IN. They kept the tank inside the heated building, not in the ground or outside. What is the Cetane rating on the biodiesel? 61-50, depending on the stock that it's made from. Depending on what source you look at, BTU's are 7%-10% less than dino fuel.
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Oct 13, 2022 4:33:07 GMT -5
Post by beermaker on Oct 13, 2022 4:33:07 GMT -5
Correct on all accounts, just adding some veggie oil info. Pretty sure he runs veggie in winter, hence the hot plate. He is not leading the charge in this. Just following others proven techniques. Very little info on newer technology injection and timing, so not pushing his luck. He did try in his tractor, and since its siphon draw, it did not run to full potential so he quit. Talked about adding a lift pump to push the oil from the tank to the injection pump, but hasnt pursued it yet. Since tractor mpg is very efficient and red diesel costing less, he (we) are good for now as is. That veggie oil was very popular back in 2008/2009 in the VW TDI community, but some guys experienced injection pump failures that was attributed to not cleaning the oil well enough so many guys went back to dino oil. You used to be able to buy 100% biodiesel at Bellman Oil in Bremen, IN. They kept the tank inside the heated building, not in the ground or outside. I worked for a company 2005-2009 that had a fleet of converted TDI's. I drove a late 90's model and never had a problem, other than the veggie filter clogging prematurely a few times. The newer models, probably 2006's, had one problem after another. The conversions were done against the advice and warranty guidelines from VW, yet our owner still tried to get repairs done under warranty. VW and the dealer told him to never call or come back again. I distinctly remember reading a magazine article while waiting for service at Big-O. It talked about how newer cars and their emission systems were not meant for such conversion. The main point was that the newer motors did not run hot enough to burn all of the oil and related residue. I shared this with our owner and purchasing manager. It was like I was talking to a tree. We also had an F450 that was converted. It caused so many problems that the local Ford dealers would not touch it. The VW's were all sold when the company went bankrupt in 2009, but I don't know what happened to that truck.
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Oct 13, 2022 18:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 13, 2022 18:00:03 GMT -5
It’s flat crazy down here.
Huck’s in Newburgh is $2.55 and 10 miles away in Evansville Huck’s is $3.78
That’s backwards to what it has been. Evansville has always been cheaper .
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 13, 2022 18:10:45 GMT -5
I drove to Wyoming and back last week. Georgia and back this week. Most expensive gas I saw was 4.29 in Bedford.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 13, 2022 18:24:27 GMT -5
I drove to Wyoming and back last week. Georgia and back this week. Most expensive gas I saw was 4.29 in Bedford. See the Big Deer shot in Georgia this week? Dandy…
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Oct 13, 2022 19:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 13, 2022 19:48:43 GMT -5
I drove to Wyoming and back last week. Georgia and back this week. Most expensive gas I saw was 4.29 in Bedford. See the Big Deer shot in Georgia this week? Dandy… That's a great deer anywhere! We went down to Cloudland Canyon S.P. with the kids, had a cabin rented for fall break.
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Post by esshup on Oct 15, 2022 0:15:53 GMT -5
Diesel locally is $5.19-$5.79, 20 miles away in Bourbon I filled up today @ $4.899/gal for diesel.
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Oct 18, 2022 20:32:19 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Oct 18, 2022 20:32:19 GMT -5
Press Sec: "Everyday, Americans are saving $420 million at the pump." 🤷🏻♂️
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