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Post by speckle on May 2, 2012 7:00:17 GMT -5
so what is your opinion. Is deer meat organic?
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Post by swilk on May 2, 2012 7:19:50 GMT -5
I think the whole notion of "organic" is pretty silly .... having said that, I would say the great majority of our deer are NOT organic.
As soon as they eat any non-organic grain they no longer fit into the organic category.
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Post by firstwd on May 2, 2012 7:26:50 GMT -5
I think the whole notion of "organic" is pretty silly .... having said that, I would say the great majority of our deer are NOT organic. As soon as they eat any non-organic grain they no longer fit into the organic category. And all corn is genetically engineered.
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Post by swilk on May 2, 2012 7:30:39 GMT -5
Im not sure a person could find a single "organic" deer anywhere in the state of Indiana ..... I cant imagine a situation where a deer has never eaten a soybean or piece of corn. Or eaten an apple from a sprayed/tended apple tree.
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Post by speckle on May 2, 2012 7:47:19 GMT -5
I think the whole notion of "organic" is pretty silly .... having said that, I would say the great majority of our deer are NOT organic. As soon as they eat any non-organic grain they no longer fit into the organic category. you are exactly right. Think of it this way would you rather eat a sick cow or one that a vet has seen and gave it drugs and is healthy. Deer are not organic in my opinion either
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Post by goosepondmonster on May 2, 2012 7:50:56 GMT -5
I agree that they are not organic, but with that said, I still think it is a lot healthier than a lot of meat you buy at the store.
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Post by joeyb on May 2, 2012 7:55:57 GMT -5
In my opinion they're the closest organic meat available for harvest besides specially raised organic animals. They're never given growth hormones. They do eat GMO corn, but they're still WAY more organic than pork, beef, or chicken. Fish are probably the most organic of the wild meat.
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Post by speckle on May 2, 2012 7:56:42 GMT -5
I agree that they are not organic, but with that said, I still think it is a lot healthier than a lot of meat you buy at the store. what is your reasoning?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 7:58:59 GMT -5
I'd say at least half of their diet would be organic. Some more, maybe some less.
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Post by swilk on May 2, 2012 8:00:07 GMT -5
In my opinion they're the closest organic meat available for harvest besides specially raised organic animals. They're never given growth hormones. They do eat GMO corn, but they're still WAY more organic than pork, beef, or chicken. Fish are probably the most organic of the wild meat. Its either organic or it isnt. I think deer fall into the "isnt" category.
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Post by speckle on May 2, 2012 8:03:01 GMT -5
Wouldn't that be the same as all natural
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Post by joeyb on May 2, 2012 8:19:18 GMT -5
Yes, I 100% agree it is all natural, and not organic. My point is that they're closer to organic than your store bought meat. However it is either organic or not organic, and they're NOT organic. If you looked at the other thread "Why we hunt" I 100% agreed with you there too, and admitted that I phrased it wrong.
Swilk... Unfortunately deer are NOT organic since they eat the GMO corn. They are ALL NATURAL.
Fish are even questionable, but in theory should be. The farm runoff most likely causes them to be all natural and not organic also.
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Post by speckle on May 2, 2012 8:21:13 GMT -5
Im not picking on you Joey I was just curious what other folks thought as well
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May 2, 2012 13:02:53 GMT -5
Post by goosepondmonster on May 2, 2012 13:02:53 GMT -5
I think that joeyb pretty much summed it up for me... In my opinion they're the closest organic meat available for harvest besides specially raised organic animals. They're never given growth hormones. They do eat GMO corn, but they're still WAY more organic than pork, beef, or chicken. Fish are probably the most organic of the wild meat. I would add that the meat is very lean and I'm guessing that the fat content is much, much lower than that of beef.
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Post by realhunter on May 2, 2012 13:36:44 GMT -5
I would say that most on here don't fully understand the meaning of "organic" Is Venison organic? - the answer is YES Just because a deer eats field corn does not make it "non organic" A deer chooses what it eats...probably by what is most palatable and easiest to access To get USDA certification for organic - Animals marketed as organic cannot receive any antibiotics, growth hormones or other drugs other than vaccinations Organic certification ensures that ruminants (grazers) have daily access to well-managed pasture in the grazing season, at least 120 days per year Grazing animals must have regular access to pasture, and poultry may not be caged and must also have access to the outdoors Organic meat has no artificial colors, flavors or preservatives added. Regulations allow certain organically produced additives in some cases. Read more: Definition of Organic Meat | eHow.com www.ehow.com/about_6541505_definition-organic-meat.html#ixzz1tjqebjNQ
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Post by swilk on May 2, 2012 13:43:14 GMT -5
uh .... except for that little part about about all feed being organically grown. Which our corn and soybeans are not. Therefore .... deer aint organic. ecfr.gpoaccess.gov
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May 2, 2012 13:55:43 GMT -5
Post by firstwd on May 2, 2012 13:55:43 GMT -5
I guess it depends on how you define organic.....
1or·gan·ic adj \ȯr-ˈga-nik\ Definition of ORGANIC 1archaic : instrumental 2a : of, relating to, or arising in a bodily organ b : affecting the structure of the organism 3a (1) : of, relating to, or derived from living organisms <organic evolution> (2) : of, relating to, yielding, or involving the use of food produced with the use of feed or fertilizer of plant or animal origin without employment of chemically formulated fertilizers, growth stimulants, antibiotics, or pesticides <organic farming> <organic produce> b (1) : of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds (2) : relating to, being, or dealt with by a branch of chemistry concerned with the carbon compounds of living beings and most other carbon compounds 4a : forming an integral element of a whole : fundamental <incidental music rather than organic parts of the action — Francis Fergusson> b : having systematic coordination of parts : organized <an organic whole> c : having the characteristics of an organism : developing in the manner of a living plant or animal <society is organic> 5: of, relating to, or constituting the law by which a government or organization exists
2organicnoun Definition of ORGANIC : an organic substance: as a : a fertilizer of plant or animal origin b : a pesticide whose active component is an organic compound or a mixture of organic compounds c : a food produced by organic farming
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May 2, 2012 14:00:20 GMT -5
Post by swilk on May 2, 2012 14:00:20 GMT -5
Dont worry ... our govt has already decided what "organic" means when it comes to food.
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Post by boonechaser on May 2, 2012 19:11:14 GMT -5
100 percent wild game. If you want to call it by another name feel free.
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Post by duff on May 3, 2012 4:58:35 GMT -5
100 percent wild game. If you want to call it by another name feel free. The FDA definition of "organic" is not geared towards wild animals. It's just a term used to categorize a consumer choice based on controlling factors instituted by the producer. Applications, application fees and audits are required to meet the standard in order to sell items as "organic". In science, everything with a carbon based structure is defined as organic. So in that since they would be organic
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