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Post by boonechaser on May 11, 2012 11:53:11 GMT -5
Seen some does on trail pic's that looked like they might have dropped fawn's allready, but i've yet to see any myself. Anybody seen any yet?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2012 15:38:14 GMT -5
I've seen some tiny tracks.
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Post by waynecountytrio on May 11, 2012 19:54:43 GMT -5
nothing yet,,,,but wouldnt surprise me to see em'
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Post by dbd870 on May 12, 2012 6:08:25 GMT -5
I saw 4 does total this week and no fawns. I wouldn't doubt there are fawns out there though.
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Post by tobias on May 12, 2012 7:49:11 GMT -5
I've got several pics the last couples weeks with no fawns, but like Boonechaser said it looks like some may have dropped.
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Post by billybobteeth on May 12, 2012 21:23:54 GMT -5
YES all over the place up here started seeing them 3 weeks ago and they are everywhere now ,in every hay feilds around the area.Funny thing is most are singles with 1 year old does a few twins here or there with what remains of the old does in this area but not many of those.
Seeing several young does with no fawns around the county .
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 21:51:04 GMT -5
and to think, bbt you dont see any mature deer when season is in but yet you have loads of fawns. kinda funny if you ask me cause fawns or button bucks dont have fawns. very puzzleing?
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Post by billybobteeth on May 12, 2012 21:58:03 GMT -5
and to think, bbt you dont see any mature deer when season is in but yet you have loads of fawns. kinda funny if you ask me cause fawns or button bucks dont have fawns. very puzzleing? All over does not mean "lots" or "loads "as you call it and I never said loads or lots I said "just all over" . What do you mean fawns don't have fawns I know this is wrong !! I was talking about some 1 year olds not this years fawns I was refuring to last years fawn Does . Second there are not lots of old does around here anymore I made that clear .... Kind of funny ! OH btw yes a small percentage of doe fawns of the year do breed like 20-30 % . That is common in this area but not more usually . FYI I am talking about a large area of the county not a single property or few farms here !! I know you don't respect me! Nor like me and that's fine I could care less. I was just all over your area of KY ,and southern IN . and its nothing and I mean "nothing" in resemblance of this part of the state in respect cover ,woods ,deer herd ,or the huge feilds we have here with a giant human population compaired to very low human influance and huge wooded hilly tracts of land. You all southern IN hunters need to get around the state more so you have understanding of what others not in your areas are facing to hunt every year.
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Post by huntingman on May 13, 2012 8:52:40 GMT -5
Actually it's 50-60% of doe fawns breed, more in midwestern states, it'll get up to 70-80% in the fertile areas.
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Post by billybobteeth on May 13, 2012 9:58:30 GMT -5
Actually it's 50-60% of doe fawns breed, more in midwestern states, it'll get up to 70-80% in the fertile areas. I understand this but in this area it seems to be the lower 20-30 percent they are easily seen in the spring and summer months and that is about it for the young does here. LOL its printyed over and over in books but in practice in the areas i hunt 70-80 percent is a joke at best ..Besides that is IA ,and Western IL . stats Not central IN stats.
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Post by firstwd on May 14, 2012 8:20:24 GMT -5
I haven't seen any fawns, but I came really close to taking out a nice wide 8/10 point on the drive to work this morning. I realize it's early in development just not much height , but cleared both ears by a couple inches.
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Post by gwinnman on May 14, 2012 8:33:00 GMT -5
I had several trail pics with does that had pretty big bellies. Dindn't see any fawns while turkey hunting.
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Post by hunter7x on May 15, 2012 7:24:16 GMT -5
saw some itty bitty tracks last weekend. Also saw an obviously preggo doe yesterday. I felt bad when she spooked from my truck and ran across that field bouncing the little future booner around in there lol
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Post by oldhoyt on May 15, 2012 10:23:52 GMT -5
This thread reminds me that I saw a larger deer with two smaller deer (yearlings, not fawns) during opening weekend of Turkey season. I just assumed it was the usual older doe with 2 yearlings. Then I saw them at less than 30 yds, and noticed the larger deer had one spike or forked antler about 5 inches long. The antler was definitely hard and not in velvet. They didn't hang around for further inspection, but I'm now wondering if the antlered deer was a doe or buck.
I have seen no fawns yet this spring.
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Post by windingwinds on May 15, 2012 13:51:33 GMT -5
I have been getting some pictures of last year's twin fawns, a buck and a doe alone recently. So I figured mom has dropped a new fawn or 2 this week. (that or she finally got hit on road but haven't seen her laying anywhere) Hope to get some trail cam pictures of the new fawns soon, seems like it was June til I saw the now yearlings with mom. Our property is a little difficult for short/young ones to jump the fence, so they have to be pretty mobile and steady on their legs.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 14:27:42 GMT -5
Gestation is 200 days. Does bred in the first week of Nov., which is about normal, will drop in late May. This isn't opinion, but fact. Also, any last year fawns that get bred, which is about 60-70% will normally do so in Dec. or even January. Those fawns will be dropping in June. Those bred in January, will likely not raise the newborn, as it's going to be too young to make it through the coming winter.
So, it's not impossible to see fawns NOW, because some (a very small number will bred in Oct.) BUT it's impossble for the year old does to be dropping this early, as they are always bred later in the rut. I don't have a clue what BBT is seeing or not seeing, but it's not fawns from a last years fawn. I'm reluctant to post this and will not argue the point, because it's based on proven science and would be a freak of nature for it to occur differently, and impossible for it to occur multiple times in the same area.
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Post by fullrut on May 15, 2012 16:10:06 GMT -5
Saw my first fawn today.
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Post by billybobteeth on May 15, 2012 16:31:09 GMT -5
Gestation is 200 days. Does bred in the first week of Nov., which is about normal, will drop in late May. This isn't opinion, but fact. Also, any last year fawns that get bred, which is about 60-70% will normally do so in Dec. or even January. Those fawns will be dropping in June. Those bred in January, will likely not raise the newborn, as it's going to be too young to make it through the coming winter. So, it's not impossible to see fawns NOW, because some (a very small number will bred in Oct.) BUT it's impossble for the year old does to be dropping this early, as they are always bred later in the rut. I don't have a clue what BBT is seeing or not seeing, but it's not fawns from a last years fawn. I'm reluctant to post this and will not argue the point, because it's based on proven science and would be a freak of nature for it to occur differently, and impossible for it to occur multiple times in the same area. OK whatever don't care early mid Oct to mid April is 200 days and that is the common time frame of when our fawns start hitting the ground here every year .Now also a buck will breed any doe it can that will stand from the time its antlers shed velvet. So that's deer breeding science as well . Despite the peak breeding in most northern states being recognized as mid Nov. Many areas with extremely healthy deer herds have does that come into estrous and breed from the time a buck is able usually starting around the first part of OCT with a heavy spurt of rut activity in mid OCT . Its purely genetics of that areas deer herd not the month it happens to be or moon phasee that cause this in some areas inside the areas that are considered to be traditional peak breeding areas in the northern half of the country. And 200 days is just that 200 days and they are not freeks thats just when they pop every season.
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Post by ridgerunner on May 17, 2012 14:23:00 GMT -5
I found a fawn yesterday in bad shape, checked today and it was dead..Had fly eggs all over it yesterday and was calling for it's momma..I left it alone hoping she'd get it..wrong.. it was dead today..couldn't have been over a few days old, if that.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 15:44:31 GMT -5
I saw a Buck a few days ago in Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area (LBL).
It had two little spikes covered in Velvet.
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