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Post by joeyb on Oct 22, 2012 13:51:33 GMT -5
I'm thinking of putting up the old 12 gauge slug gun and turning in for a rifle this year. I'm recently in the process of buying a Remington Versa Max 12 gauge, which make my funds very limited. I'm looking to spend around $250-$400 on a rifle. Obviously I'd go lower also. What gun would you guys suggest I buy to use during Indiana deer firearms season for around that price?
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Post by woody1071 on Oct 22, 2012 14:01:30 GMT -5
Well, in a previous post i told about my guns getting stolen. One of them was a .357mag rifle. I am going to replace it with the same and ream it out for the .357 max. I'm not a reloader but I guess I will have to be if I do this. Another option that is popular is getting it re-chambered for the .380. I believe this can all be done on your budget with an H&R Handi Rifle. The ream job on the .357 max is supposed to be fairly easy and really make the gun accurate from what I have read.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 22, 2012 14:30:28 GMT -5
In your price range I'd go with his idea.
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Post by Decatur on Oct 22, 2012 14:34:39 GMT -5
Let us know.
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Post by swilk on Oct 22, 2012 14:39:27 GMT -5
Your possibilities greatly come down to if you reload or not .....
Someone who does not reload would have a hard time beating the .44M or .460S&W.
If you reload then your possibilities open up a bit more in the price range you want to stay in.
If your price range doubles AND you reload you can get just about any legal rifle you can dream of.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 22, 2012 14:42:51 GMT -5
.44 Mag. H & R Handi Rifle. Out of the box, no modifications, off the shelf ammo, with a scope for under $300 at Gander Mountain.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 22, 2012 14:50:55 GMT -5
Another vote for 44mag in a handi rifle for your price range and factory ammo.
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Post by huntingman on Oct 22, 2012 15:50:26 GMT -5
H&R 20 gauge slug gun, 250 yards as your max.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 22, 2012 17:08:12 GMT -5
H&R 20 gauge slug gun, 250 yards as your max. that is a typo on the 250 yards right?
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Post by xizang on Oct 22, 2012 17:35:19 GMT -5
I shoot the H&R 12 gauge bull barrel and have no issues shooting it out to 200 yards. With a lot of practise 250 would be doable. You are losing a lot of energy but that big slug is still going to pound that deer at 200 yards.
As for joeyb turning to a rifle, for the money and accuracy I will not trade my H&R for anything. Just my opinion.
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Post by featherduster on Oct 22, 2012 17:37:16 GMT -5
Ditto firstwd's comment, affordable, fun to shoot,and accurate.
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Post by whitetail1 on Oct 22, 2012 17:53:37 GMT -5
.44 Mag. H & R Handi Rifle. Out of the box, no modifications, off the shelf ammo, with a scope for under $300 at Gander Mountain. Ditto. That is a great, inexpensive deer rifle for Indiana. Both of my boys have them and they are very accurate guns.
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Post by steiny on Oct 22, 2012 18:07:03 GMT -5
Get the best 44 mag and scope you can afford.
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Post by woody1071 on Oct 22, 2012 19:51:47 GMT -5
Most of my motivation is that this gun is going to be what my 7 yr old son will hunt with. He only weighs 45 lbs but he did get to shoot the .357 mag before it was stolen. He did fine with it as there is little recoil. If I was buying only for me I would most likely just buy the .44 mag. I do like this .357 max idea though. But if I was this guy I would just go with the .44 mag.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 20:06:41 GMT -5
my 44 mag kicks very little. probally less than a 243 and my 4 year old has shot one of them
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Post by huntingman on Oct 22, 2012 20:16:34 GMT -5
No, i wasn't, the energy, on 20 gauge is plenty, and drop isn't terrible, as long as he can maintain accuracy.
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Post by deadeer on Oct 22, 2012 20:58:14 GMT -5
The H&R 44mag is a great deal, very accurate within reasonable ranges, and the most user friendly for an off the shelf gun. Shells are easy to find, reasonably priced, and almost anything will kill a deer that is factory loaded. BUT, most shells have pretty good recoil for a little guy. I have 3 god children, 8yo twin boys and 10yo girl, and I have to handload light recoilers for them, but they are all small framed. I use 8gr H-Universal and either a 240gr xtp or 250gr Kieth style hard cast, and they kill deer just fine. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Jay
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Post by parrothead on Oct 23, 2012 5:25:06 GMT -5
I have the Savage 220f 20 g. and have dropped deer with it out to 220 yards. Slugs are a little pricey.
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Post by schoolmaster on Oct 23, 2012 9:41:40 GMT -5
The handi-rifles can be set up with a youth stock that shortens the pull for young shooters. The .357 mag cartridge in a RIFLE is very effective with a 158 grain non hollow point bullet. Gets complete penetration at a measured 68 yards on a nice doe. You can use .38 specials for practice. My 8 yr old grandson took his first deer with with the .357 handi off shooting sticks. You could always buy a 44 down the road when he gets bigger. You also could just get a 44 barrel from the factory or ream to .357 max. also a very effective cartridge out to 200 yards on deer. The handies are a reasonably priced, effective deer rifle. The only drawback is they come without sites so you have to scope them.
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Post by parson on Oct 23, 2012 10:17:44 GMT -5
I have an H&R .357 that I reamed to maxi, as well as a CVA scout in .44 mag. I like 'em both, and they both will shoot within a couple of inches at 100 yards. Of course, if you go the maxi route, you'll likely have to reload for it.
Even without going to maxi, the .357 mag is quite capable of taking deer.
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