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Post by sakorifle on Oct 2, 2014 14:07:21 GMT -5
Greetings I don't have this problem because there only is myself and a good friend that hunt deer in the district, and no such thing as public hunting land. But today I went to look at an area I hunt as I need to get a couple of does off, and its high with grass, so I have had to buy one of those seats I was talking about to be able to see them. Ouch spending money hurts me. Lol All I interesting stuff. Regards Billy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 14:37:57 GMT -5
I think there has to some level of respect given to a person who atleast took the time and energy to hang a stand in certain area. I think most of us do offer that respect and I have no doubt you would too if you had to hunt public land.I have never read a disrespectful comment from you. I understand its public ground and is set aside for all of us to use but to sit in a persons stand or right next to them just to be a jerk is beyond me. I wouldn't hunt someone else's stand in a million years. I might be annoyed though if they hung a stand in the only prime tree in a good spot and kept me from ever being able to use that spot.
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Post by jb1069 on Oct 2, 2014 15:14:32 GMT -5
I would rather know where someone is planning on hunting(stand placement is a good indicator) so I can move on and they don't screw me up when I am trying to hunt. I try to distance my self rather than sit close to where I know there will be a lot of traffic. I would rather find my own good spot than benefit off the scouting of someone else.
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 2, 2014 17:04:36 GMT -5
What the heck is wrong with you old man /Your ethics are really lacking to say the least by your many posts and own words here . FYI if I caught you in my tree or stand we would spend the day starring at each other as I climbed over you to get on stand .Like it or not..And there would not be a single thing you could do about it . Let me get this straight. I buy 20 stands and put them every 40 yards then I lock up that property? Nope never said that at all I said in "MY" stand/tree my stand is in .Thats just stupid to set that many stands . so if I show up to my one stand and there is a low life setting in it Im taking it back one way or the other .And the CO can either show up and move him or I will move him .I carry a large bow saw in my truck and bolt cutters .Its my stand I will take it down when I want too .. They better be out of it by the time I get back too it ...LMAO
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 2, 2014 17:05:07 GMT -5
Wow had my first double post just happen !!
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 2, 2014 17:12:47 GMT -5
What the heck is wrong with you old man /Your ethics are really lacking to say the least by your many posts and own words here . FYI if I caught you in my tree or stand we would spend the day starring at each other as I climbed over you to get on stand .Like it or not..And there would not be a single thing you could do about it . That's why it's called public land and in a battle of who is more stubborn I doubt you are going to even come close to me. I went to work for 5 years after I could retire just out of pure spite. Wanna bet NO PERSONAL ATTACKS! Thks duff.... .Glad your days on this earth mean that little to you .You only get one pass through and so many days to live after retirement why not live them with dignity and some good ethics and enjoy everyone you get .???I stand by my post here and previous one as well.
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 2, 2014 17:23:15 GMT -5
The guy in the climber .. A hung stand does not reserve the spot... If I walked in and someone was in my stand I'd ask them politely to get down and move on. The decent thing for them to do would be to comply. If they didn't id go hunt elsewhere but would be back the next day to drop the stand. They would not hunt it a second time. The further back in that you walk to your stand the less likely anyone will be in it. Exactly, almost. I don't have a problem with what you said, it's just not EXACTLY what I'd do/have done. I usually would be kind of sneaky coming up to my stand that was already out there and I'd MAYBE take a picture if it looked like a stranger in my stand on public land. I probably would turn around and hunt a different one figuring I am the best hunter in the area. All they are going to accomplish is screw up the area and therefore create a bottle neck with the deer trying to avoid him and send MORE deer my way than if he weren't there. If it DID happen to be my only stand in the area I'd probably roust him out of it. When I have set in someone else's stand I make even more of an effort to leave no indication I was ever there. #1 I don't want them moving it. I want to use it. That way I don't have to carry my own out there. I'm retired, I'll kill everything that walks near that spot monday - friday. Only thing I'd do to give away I was there is I'll cut down and collect ever piece of any kind of flagging I see anywhere on public ground 365 days a year. Funny you think your the best hunter out there, your obviously by your own accounts the laziest hunter out there with despicable ethics ..I am glad you and I will never deal with each other ever or hunt close not even remotely ..LOL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 17:30:13 GMT -5
And some folks have the unmitigated gall to label others as "slob hunters".
This act has almost certainly got to be a put on.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 2, 2014 17:36:46 GMT -5
Sorry folks I've had as about as much personal attacks I can stand.
Any future ones the poster will be sitting down awhile..
I'm serious...
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Post by duff on Oct 2, 2014 17:43:04 GMT -5
If I was worried about being liable for someone falling out of my stands I would certainly not put one up!
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 2, 2014 18:01:52 GMT -5
duff i agree with you, it cost my firm a fortune when a member of the public, slipped and fell twelve feet, he is unfortunately in a wheel chair now. it is frighteningly expensive if it goes wrong. saying that we also had an idiot ride his pedal bike flat out into a metal barrier across the forest road and we got sued for that as well. no wonder we cant get a pay rise lol regards billy
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Post by firstwd on Oct 2, 2014 18:58:56 GMT -5
duff i agree with you, it cost my firm a fortune when a member of the public, slipped and fell twelve feet, he is unfortunately in a wheel chair now. it is frighteningly expensive if it goes wrong. saying that we also had an idiot ride his pedal bike flat out into a metal barrier across the forest road and we got sued for that as well. no wonder we cant get a pay rise lol regards billy I understand the feeling Billy. If people would actually take responsibility for their own actions the world would be a much simpler and happier place.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 2, 2014 19:59:41 GMT -5
I always thought ONLY portable tree stands could be used on public land.....Did this change? That would be either a climber or a lock on stand....
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Post by fishinbrad on Oct 2, 2014 20:13:30 GMT -5
My personal opinion, not that it matters, is that if you hang a stand, be prepared for it to be used or worst case stolen. Hypothetically speaking, I will NOT hunt from another persons stand (safety issues) nor take it down (legalities), unless I know them and have talked about it. I'll darned sure hunt the area if the stand is vacant and I like the area. Simply placing a stand in a tree on public land, in no way grants you any dibs on or special rights to the area, it is only a convenience for you. If someone comes in and wants to be a jerk about it and screw up my day so they can prove a point then no big deal - karma will take care of them.
Realistically speaking, as deep in the woods as I hunt, it is actually rare to see anyone else all season, and on the rare occasions that I do, they are usually lost!
Synopsis: A convenience for one hunter should not be a hindrance for everyone else! Be realistic and be respectful of the effort that others put into the sport.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 20:16:41 GMT -5
My personal opinion, not that it matters, is that if you hang a stand, be prepared for it to be used or worst case stolen. Hypothetically speaking, I will NOT hunt from another persons stand (safety issues) nor take it down (legalities), unless I know them and have talked about it. I'll darned sure hunt the area if the stand is vacant and I like the area. Simply placing a stand in a tree on public land, in no way grants you any dibs on or special rights to the area, it is only a convenience for you. If someone comes in and wants to be a jerk about it and screw up my day so they can prove a point then no big deal - karma will take care of them. Realistically speaking, as deep in the woods as I hunt, it is actually rare to see anyone else all season, and on the rare occasions that I do, they are usually lost! Synopsis: A convenience for one hunter should not be a hindrance for everyone else! Be realistic and be respectful of the effort that others put into the sport. Well said!
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Post by jackryan on Oct 2, 2014 21:18:26 GMT -5
That's why it's called public land and in a battle of who is more stubborn I doubt you are going to even come close to me. I went to work for 5 years after I could retire just out of pure spite. Wanna bet NO PERSONAL ATTACKS! Thks duff.... .Glad your days on this earth mean that little to you .You only get one pass through and so many days to live after retirement why not live them with dignity and some good ethics and enjoy everyone you get .???I stand by my post here and previous one as well. ROTFL, no need to worry about my days sonny. I usually hunt a good 90% of the days of deer season and I've hunted plenty of public ground. More than enough to handle what ever wants to start up. It's public land and I'll hunt where ever and when ever I want to on it. I've been to the blow hard rodeo more than a couple of times, I know how to handle them.
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Post by jackryan on Oct 2, 2014 21:19:59 GMT -5
Exactly, almost. I don't have a problem with what you said, it's just not EXACTLY what I'd do/have done. I usually would be kind of sneaky coming up to my stand that was already out there and I'd MAYBE take a picture if it looked like a stranger in my stand on public land. I probably would turn around and hunt a different one figuring I am the best hunter in the area. All they are going to accomplish is screw up the area and therefore create a bottle neck with the deer trying to avoid him and send MORE deer my way than if he weren't there. If it DID happen to be my only stand in the area I'd probably roust him out of it. When I have set in someone else's stand I make even more of an effort to leave no indication I was ever there. #1 I don't want them moving it. I want to use it. That way I don't have to carry my own out there. I'm retired, I'll kill everything that walks near that spot monday - friday. Only thing I'd do to give away I was there is I'll cut down and collect ever piece of any kind of flagging I see anywhere on public ground 365 days a year. Funny you think your the best hunter out there, your obviously by your own accounts the laziest hunter out there with despicable ethics ..I am glad you and I will never deal with each other ever or hunt close not even remotely ..LOL Even funnier, I couldn't care less where you hunt or if we meet.
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Post by jackryan on Oct 2, 2014 21:21:15 GMT -5
Sorry folks I've had as about as much personal attacks I can stand. Any future ones the poster will be sitting down awhile.. I'm serious... Aye aye.
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Post by throbak on Oct 2, 2014 21:33:19 GMT -5
I have noticed you mention first moved here and moved here . just for curiosity's sake where did you move from Jack Ryan??
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Post by jackryan on Oct 2, 2014 22:41:10 GMT -5
I moved from Indiana to Wisconsin and I moved back 5 years later if your interest is state to state.
Area to area wise I moved from small town Indiana to Indianapolis area and back to small town and then to town in Janesville WI and now back to the rural sticks of southern Indiana. Now I life where I used to go for vacations an area I've been tramping around for 41 years or more on dirt bikes, walking, camping, mining, caving, hunting... if I'm not the best hunter on the land I hunt now, then I've got no excuse for it.
I'd rather be lucky than good but if you don't get lucky you better be good.
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