anyone id this plant

[span870]

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[duff]

Maybe Throbak can tell you. He is pretty good at iding plants

[dadfsr]

Man if it was a tree without any leaves I could probably get it but an annual (maybe perennial?) plant that's already done for the year....don't suppose you could get a better pic of the seed heads and/or seeds??? Also the root system if you can pull one up may give some clues too.

But Throbak would have a better clue too.

[throbak]

sericea lespedeza Bad Plant probably so thick its hard to walk through and those are small really hard seeds

[drs]

It's: Sericea lespedeza.  Which is a native of eastern Asia. It was first introduced in southern United States, and has now become naturalized from Maryland, Virginia, Tennessee, Missouri and Texas, north to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Oklahoma. The first recorded collection of sericea lespedeza in Missouri was made in 1938. It has been introduced into various areas as a soil cover for erosion control, for soil improvement, as food and cover for bobwhite quail, wild turkey and other wildlife, and to a lesser extent, for forage and hay.

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Might not be a desirable plant as it's invasive, but...

It makes good hay for goats and, I would assume deer would eat it too. Very high protein.

[span870]

So no transplanting it then ? I was at Glendale rabbit hunting and it makes great cover for rabbits.

[throbak]

No butts to it its a very bad plant and very hard to get rid of it will create a mono culture and gets so thick you can't walk through it the seeds are so hard they can't be digested Book has it bad in places there are other things to plant that are much better My WSG is absolutely FULL of Rabbits And its not Invasive good hay as well

[throbak]

That's Big Oaks Has it bad serecia was an out her one of those Bad Ideas along with Autumn OliveAnd Amur Honey Suckle

[drs]

Dec 15, 2014 6:08:45 GMT -5 span870 said:

So no transplanting it then ? I was at Glendale rabbit hunting and it makes great cover for rabbits.

Yes,  Sericea lespedezacan can be planted *BUT* you must keep it under control.  I have some on my property and Deer will brows on it during late spring, but when it matures and turns brown, they won't touch it.  Birds & Rabbits love it though!!   Birdsfoot Treefoil is a good wildlife food source.

[throbak]

IDo Habitats work on the sideFyiTo kill 30 acres it has cost so far A landowner Over5,000.00to try and control(eradicate) the 30 trust me on this some people don't have a clue of what they speak

[duff]

I'd listen to throbak. He knows his stuff.

[throbak]

Thanks. Duff

[span870]

Throbak, I wouldn't want to ever get rid of it. Its all for rabbit cover. The bluestem just doesn't look like it will hold up to the amount of traffic my running pen gets and this stuff looks like it would. This field will not be used for anything else in my lifetime besides a running pen. If not this any other suggestions? I'm not attracting rabbits. Its stocked with them now. I just need thick heavy cover that will stand up to dogs running.

[firstwd]

Would this stuff be too thick for deer? I've seen deer go through so thick stuff over the years, but wondering. I'm thinking about closing up some of the travel corridors the neighboring coon hunters use to access the backside of the farm, but wouldn't want to turn deer away from the farm.

[span870]

Its pretty thick but I walked through it so I'd assume deer wouldn't have a problem. Its a very heavy stalk and when it falls over it just bends creating great cover for rabbits. Unfortunately I'd probably listen to throbak because it looks like this stuff don't stay just where you want it. Your circumstances are going to be a lot different than mine. Heck I'd be happy if it took over all 8 acres of my pen.

[ms660]

We have planted thousand's of acres of it as ground cover on reclaimed coal mine ground. Preforms great as a quick erosion control cover. We also plant a lot of Korean lespedeza. Once it get established I guarantee you will not have any soil erosion ever again. It is a very hardy plant that will push a bush hog and tractor to it's limit. We bush hog trails through some areas of it for rabbit and quail hunters and around planted tree seedlings in areas that are reclaimed forest land.

[drs]

Dec 15, 2014 23:51:44 GMT -5 ms660 said:

We have planted thousand's of acres of it as ground cover on reclaimed coal mine ground. Preforms great as a quick erosion control cover. We also plant a lot of Korean lespedeza. Once it get established I guarantee you will not have any soil erosion ever again. It is a very hardy plant that will push a bush hog and tractor to it's limit. We bush hog trails through some areas of it for rabbit and quail hunters and around planted tree seedlings in areas that are reclaimed forest land.

Korean Lespedeza is excellent for establishing wildlife habitat and for erosion control.  Why some waste their money on food plots using soybeans, corn, and other grains (which most are GMO crops) is beyond me.  One should use and encourage growth of favored plant life used by all wildlife species.

[throbak]

this is one grass I would be sure to have in a wildlife mix this is Alamo switch grass along with Little blue and Big blue and Indian grass along with Korean Lespidesea This is what I have and the Rabbits are THICK along with Quail Amounts of each is important I would put in Ill, Bundle flower BTW a very good substitute for Serecia Lespedesa ans Partridge peas also good instead of the BAD plant they do well and dont cause problems I would also put in a good 10 to 13 wildflower mix [img src="i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/throbak69/IMG_20141126_130255.jpg" src="" alt=" "]

[span870]

The picture with the snow on the ground. Obviously the exact same spot. Is that before or after the planting?