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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 24, 2015 19:13:35 GMT -5
Here is the gun I'll be using for the Primitive Hunt at Big Oaks in a few weeks. I don't know anything about it and just have the gun. I'm going to take it to the Outdoorsman on Friday and have them tell me what I need based on Big Oaks rules. They'll set me up.  Oh, I do have the booklet that came with the gun too. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 24, 2015 19:59:35 GMT -5
Cool looking gun there mister
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 24, 2015 20:03:21 GMT -5
I think I'll just keep it. I might trade him something for it. He knows I don't have any money.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 24, 2015 20:59:03 GMT -5
Looks like a deer killer to me!
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Post by stevein on Sept 25, 2015 23:51:45 GMT -5
80 grains of 2fg Goex or Swiss, .018 patching with a .490 round ball if that is a TC barrel. #11 CCI caps. Get a can of brake cleaner and spray it down the barrel to get the oil out, pop a few caps and it will be ready to load. Grease the patch with WonderLube or almost any other commercial PATCH lube. That is unless you have some spare bear grease or sperm whale oil around.  You will need a short starter to get the ball in the muzzle. Grip the ramrod near the muzzle and use short strokes until the ball is seated on the powder. That is a real nice piece of walnut on that rifle. You need A powder measure Short starter Something to carry loose powder in, a horn works real nice. Pill bottles, 35mm film cans work... Something to carry loose balls and patches something to carry caps in or just use the capbox on the rifle. Clean with plain water works about as good as anything. I clean between shots The gun will tell you. I use a traditional pouch and horn to carry everything I need to run my rifles. Everything in it's place and a place for everything. A fanny pack or steal one of your wife's purses will work  .  |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 26, 2015 11:53:29 GMT -5
80 grains of 2fg Goex or Swiss, .018 patching with a .490 round ball if that is a TC barrel. #11 CCI caps. Get a can of brake cleaner and spray it down the barrel to get the oil out, pop a few caps and it will be ready to load. Grease the patch with WonderLube or almost any other commercial PATCH lube. That is unless you have some spare bear grease or sperm whale oil around. You will need a short starter to get the ball in the muzzle. Grip the ramrod near the muzzle and use short strokes until the ball is seated on the powder. That is a real nice piece of walnut on that rifle. You need A powder measure Short starter Something to carry loose powder in, a horn works real nice. Pill bottles, 35mm film cans work... Something to carry loose balls and patches something to carry caps in or just use the capbox on the rifle. Clean with plain water works about as good as anything. I clean between shots The gun will tell you. I use a traditional pouch and horn to carry everything I need to run my rifles. Everything in it's place and a place for everything. A fanny pack or steal one of your wife's purses will work .
I appreaciate this information. I hope to go today to get the needed supplies.
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Post by stevein on Sept 26, 2015 14:53:20 GMT -5
80 grains of 2fg Goex or Swiss, .018 patching with a .490 round ball if that is a TC barrel. #11 CCI caps. Get a can of brake cleaner and spray it down the barrel to get the oil out, pop a few caps and it will be ready to load. Grease the patch with WonderLube or almost any other commercial PATCH lube. That is unless you have some spare bear grease or sperm whale oil around. You will need a short starter to get the ball in the muzzle. Grip the ramrod near the muzzle and use short strokes until the ball is seated on the powder. That is a real nice piece of walnut on that rifle. You need A powder measure Short starter Something to carry loose powder in, a horn works real nice. Pill bottles, 35mm film cans work... Something to carry loose balls and patches something to carry caps in or just use the capbox on the rifle. Clean with plain water works about as good as anything. I clean between shots The gun will tell you. I use a traditional pouch and horn to carry everything I need to run my rifles. Everything in it's place and a place for everything. A fanny pack or steal one of your wife's purses will work .
I appreaciate this information. I hope to go today to get the needed supplies.
Not military but a practitioner of KISS. When I grab my rifle and the pouch and horn I know I have what it takes to keep it going. I have used the same set up for years and loading is automatic. It does not matter what I wear I know where everything is. No searching pockets, no cussing and fussing because I forgot to move a needed item to a different coat it is there. |
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Post by stevein on Oct 8, 2015 18:11:42 GMT -5
Hey Jon did you get that beast going? |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 12, 2015 15:57:05 GMT -5
Hey Jon did you get that beast going? Well thank you for asking Steve! Just now saw your post. I just got back from shooting it. Oh man, I was giddy like a kid at Christmas. It was so much fun to shoot. I started out with 100g powder. At 50yds, it consistently shot ~6" high and to the right. Can't adjust any further left, but switched to 75g powder. This worked better. I shot 13 times. I'll clean it tonight and go back tomorrow to work with 75g more, but it's still shooting 2" right at 25yds. This is fine as long as it's consistent and I'll aim a little left. Hey, my buddy gave me this muzzleloader, so it was like Christmas! |
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 12, 2015 18:22:10 GMT -5
tap your front sight over if the rear wont adjust far enough. go to the right if its hitting to the right
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 12, 2015 22:05:19 GMT -5
tap your front sight over if the rear wont adjust far enough. go to the right if its hitting to the right I tapped it over a little, and will give it a try tomorrow. Hey, I have a question. I shot 240g maxi-ball today, but bought more today. However, they just had 255g. I was going to shoot more 75g, but will I need more than 75g powder for the 255? For the 240g, 100g powder was too much. I do have a 30g tube that I could fill up 3 times, but I will introduce more variability. |
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Post by stevein on Oct 13, 2015 8:01:02 GMT -5
You probably won't notice the difference with just 15 grains more lead but I have been wrong before. That load should be like a 45-70 express load.
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Post by oldhoyt on Oct 13, 2015 8:13:20 GMT -5
Sounds like a 45 Cal. gun if you're shooting a 255 gr Maxiball.
I'd shoot at 50 yds with several loads each, of 75, 80, 85 and 90 gr of powder to see what the gun prefers. Swab with patches soaked in 50/50 mix of windex and rubbing alcohol between each group. Be sure to then run a dry patch up/down several times to really blow out the bolster. Then pop a couple caps to be sure it's all dry in there.
Whatever load you settle on will be enough for deer, just put the shot where it needs to go.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 13, 2015 8:30:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a 45 Cal. gun if you're shooting a 255 gr Maxiball. I'd shoot at 50 yds with several loads each, of 75, 80, 85 and 90 gr of powder to see what the gun prefers. Swab with patches soaked in 50/50 mix of windex and rubbing alcohol between each group. Be sure to then run a dry patch up/down several times to really blow out the bolster. Then pop a couple caps to be sure it's all dry in there. Whatever load you settle on will be enough for deer, just put the shot where it needs to go. Yes, it is a 45. Absolutely, what you have described is a well planned experiment; however, I do not have the capability to measure those increments. All I have are 75, 100 and 30g tubes. I could make up a 90g with three 30s. I'm not thinking that I want to spend anymore money on accessories. The only time I will use this gun is for a primitive hunt, but I really like it. From what I've seen with it, the 75 will probably work best. I'm not planning on taking a shot over 50yds without a scope. I don't see that well. Like you say, whatever I decide on is enough to kill a deer; I just have to put it in the right place. Thanks oldhoyt! |
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 13, 2015 11:04:21 GMT -5
dont need that much powder imo. id sight in with 60 and do my target punching with 60. confirm and use 75 for deer.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 13, 2015 15:26:56 GMT -5
dont need that much powder imo. id sight in with 60 and do my target punching with 60. confirm and use 75 for deer. Hey, I did tap that front sight over and it worked great. Thanks! I didn't know I could do that. I was very happy with 75g and the 255 maxiball at 50 yds. I won't need to shoot any further than this. Man, that gun has the lightest trigger that I've ever shot. Some things one learns on the first shot. I sighted in my 220 too, so I'm good for firearm season now. It's a good feeling. |
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Post by stevein on Oct 13, 2015 18:12:10 GMT -5
Man, that gun has the lightest trigger that I've ever shot. Some things one learns on the first shot. And that is why all my deer hunting rifles were built with single triggers. Cold fingers and hair triggers do not work for me. Plus it is one less thing to mess up. Try the trigger unset, but usually TC's unset pull is around 50 lbs. |
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Post by BOBinIN on Oct 14, 2015 5:07:25 GMT -5
Jon,
See that little screw sticking down from between the triggers? That is where you adjust the trigger engagement on the double set triggers that your rifle has. As you run that screw in or out it changes the "pull" of the trigger. Try it and set it to what suits you. BOB
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Oct 14, 2015 11:01:15 GMT -5
Jon, See that little screw sticking down from between the triggers? That is where you adjust the trigger engagement on the double set triggers that your rifle has. As you run that screw in or out it changes the "pull" of the trigger. Try it and set it to what suits you. BOB Well, I'm learning all kinds of new things. Thanks! I'm afraid to change it now as I'm all set up for hunting this weekend, but I sure would like it a little heavier. Hey, do they make a nipple wrench? It's not the easiest thing to get out without the right tool. |
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 14, 2015 11:03:54 GMT -5
both my tc's have set triggers and both only pull about 6-7 pounds unset. I prefer them set though. theres a method to setting that screw too. doesnt really adjust pull wgt per se. iirc you half cock then adjust screw out till it trips trigger then go back in one full turn. google that to verify, its been awhile
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You will need a short starter to get the ball in the muzzle. Grip the ramrod near the muzzle and use short strokes until the ball is seated on the powder.
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