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Post by esshup on Jan 12, 2024 12:10:54 GMT -5
The way I read it, it's superfluous. "Taken" to me means that the animal is dead, and that is already allowed under the current statute. But then again, maybe not. hunt-indiana.com/thread/64853/clarification-on-infrared-sensorsThen again, maybe it IS superfluous! On page 2 of this thread: hunt-indiana.com/thread/71265/drone-deer-recovery?page=2After speaking to multiple Conservation Officers and legal experts, it has been determined that utilizing a drone to track a dead deer would not constitute a violation. The act of “Take” is already complete. The drone cannot be used in the effort to find a deer that has already been taken. If we find your deer and it has not expired yet, we will provide you with the information, and legally you cannot use this information to pursue the animal for 14 days. We require that all customer sign a waiver stating that all information we provide to customer is for recovery efforts and NOT hunting or “Taking” efforts. As was stated earlier in that thread. If you don't have hunter orange on, and do NOT have a firearm, you aren't hunting, are you? So, what would prohibit me from using a drone with thermal capability to look?
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Post by greghopper on Jan 12, 2024 12:22:14 GMT -5
Hand held devices should be legal also then for any type of hunting not limited to deer only.
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Post by esshup on Jan 12, 2024 17:35:07 GMT -5
Hand held devices should be legal also then for any type of hunting not limited to deer only. Maybe incorrectly, but I thought thermal was legal to use for varmints? (thinking coyotes at night)
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 13, 2024 21:54:43 GMT -5
I saw this. What do you think? Don't support it unless all infrared devices are allowed not just Drones. I also don't support this activity coming from Politicians vs the DNR rules process….. Agreed.
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 13, 2024 22:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 13, 2024 22:13:28 GMT -5
So is 144 saying that my 17 year old son can’t take a gun to go hunting by himself and me, his mom, or another permitted adult would have to be with him? Kinda confusing to read that.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 13, 2024 22:23:56 GMT -5
So is 144 saying that my 17 year old son can’t take a gun to go hunting by himself and me, his mom, or another permitted adult would have to be with him? Kinda confusing to read that. Don’t believe it would be an issue on land you own….
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 13, 2024 22:35:48 GMT -5
I’m saying if he drives to hunt somewhere on his own. Have private to hunt that’s not ours and about a 30 minute drive, plus tons of public around.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 13, 2024 23:14:53 GMT -5
I’m saying if he drives to hunt somewhere on his own. Have private to hunt that’s not ours and about a 30 minute drive, plus tons of public around. “With some exceptions, Indiana prohibits a person under 18 from knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly possessing a firearm except when supervised and at his or her residence or on property owned by a parent or guardian, or, for purposes of hunting, target shooting or safety training.1 Persons under 18 are also prohibited from selling or providing a firearm to another person under 18 except for the purposes described above.“ giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/minimum-age-to-purchase-possess-in-indiana/
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 14, 2024 0:05:24 GMT -5
Well good thing he turns 18 on Thursday. Still don’t think that’s right that they can’t go hunting on their own outside of our own property with a firearm.
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Post by js2397 on Jan 14, 2024 10:45:07 GMT -5
IC 35-47-10-5 Dangerous possession and unlawful transfer of a firearm Sec. 5. (a) A child who knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly possesses a firearm for any purpose other than a purpose described in section 1 of this chapter commits dangerous possession of a firearm, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Level 5 felony if the child has a prior conviction under this section or has been adjudicated a delinquent for an act that would be an offense under this section if committed by an adult. (b) A child who knowingly or intentionally provides a firearm to another child whom the child knows: (1) is ineligible for any reason to purchase or otherwise receive from a dealer a firearm; or (2) intends to use the firearm to commit a crime;commits a Level 5 felony. However, the offense is a Level 3 felony if the other child uses the firearm to commit murder (IC 35-42-1-1). As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.203-1996, SEC.4; P.L.158-2013, SEC.602; P.L.152-2014, SEC.8.
IC 35-47-10-1 Application and exemptions Sec. 1. (a) This section does not apply to section 7 of this chapter. (b) Except as provided in subsection (c), this chapter does not apply to the following: (1) A child who is attending a hunters safety course or a firearms safety course or an adult who is supervising the child during the course.
(2) A child engaging in practice in using a firearm for target shooting at an established range or in an area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited or supervised by: (A) a qualified firearms instructor; or (B) an adult who is supervising the child while the child is at the range.
(3) A child engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code that uses firearms as a part of a performance or an adult who is involved in the competition or performance.
(4) A child who is hunting or trapping under a valid license issued to the child under IC 14-22.
(5) A child who is traveling with an unloaded firearm to or from an activity described in this section.
(6) A child who: (A) is on real property that is under the control of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian; and (B) has permission from the child's parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm.
(7) A child who: (A) is at the child's residence; and (B) has the permission of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian to possess a firearm. (c) This chapter applies to a child, and to a person who provides a firearm to a child, if the child: (1) is ineligible to purchase or possess a firearm for any reason other than the child's age; or (2) if the child intends to use a firearm to commit a crime. As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.1-1995, SEC.78; P.L.203-1996, SEC.2; P.L.152-2014, SEC.7.
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Post by js2397 on Jan 14, 2024 10:46:16 GMT -5
Above is the actual language from Indiana Code. It appears that hunting anywhere is exempted from the law.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 14, 2024 10:52:19 GMT -5
Thank you for that.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 15, 2024 8:16:38 GMT -5
Above is the actual language from Indiana Code. It appears that hunting anywhere is exempted from the law. True…. This bill looks to change the way firearm can travel with the youth they would need an adult to travel with them.Seems silly unless they are just walking down the road with a firearm under age.I would think most would be traveling with an adult if the didn't have a driver license…..old enough to dive I don't see a problem!
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 15, 2024 21:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jan 16, 2024 20:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 18, 2024 18:02:07 GMT -5
Bobcat bill passed 7-1. On to the full Senate. Bunny huggers were out in force.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 18, 2024 18:46:28 GMT -5
Bobcat bill passed 7-1. On to the full Senate. Bunny huggers were out in force. Diffidently an interesting livestream…… Who was the lady that spoke from the DNR ? I believe I heard her say she was new.
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 18, 2024 23:59:15 GMT -5
Bobcat bill passed 7-1. On to the full Senate. Bunny huggers were out in force. Diffidently an interesting livestream…… Who was the lady that spoke from the DNR ? I believe I heard her say she was new. She's the brand-new legislative liaison for DNR. Another lawyer in the mix. She might be at the meeting on Saturday. Definitely will be at NRC meeting on Tuesday.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 19, 2024 7:55:05 GMT -5
Diffidently an interesting livestream…… Who was the lady that spoke from the DNR ? I believe I heard her say she was new. She's the brand-new legislative liaison for DNR. Another lawyer in the mix. She might be at the meeting on Saturday. Definitely will be at NRC meeting on Tuesday. What is her name?…..Thanks My Biggest complaint in this we have legislators telling the paid professionals(DNR) what to do… Bobcats are definitely round in many counties I just don't think they are as big of a nuisance as some think they are. Be interesting to know how many nuisance permits are issued each year to take them now in Indiana. I am for trapping them only not hunting them (same as otters)…..Trappers have been releasing them for a long time they have earned the right to control them if/where needed. Again, Not sure why the DNR has to be told to make a season…. Let the paid professionals decide IMO Seems interesting that some are complaining about “state interference” on the last go around but now are ok with legislators being involved! SMH
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