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Post by jtkelly on Jan 14, 2023 13:29:05 GMT -5
uh , sure they do, any more
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 14, 2023 15:14:24 GMT -5
Good luck finding a dead deer with a drone that does NOT have thermal capability.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 14, 2023 17:09:14 GMT -5
Good luck finding a dead deer with a drone that does NOT have thermal capability. Pretty sure the Thermal would be a No Go!
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Post by Sasquatch on Jan 14, 2023 17:09:59 GMT -5
I ran across one of that guy's videos. Pretty cool.
I think the forbidding of the use of thermal imaging ( or just about anything ) to RECOVER a deer is for sure one of Indiana's dumbest laws. After all, what is the point of killing something and not recovering it if that can be avoided?
Every year we propose a zillion changes to the game laws; how about tossing that one?
Set some kind of reasonable limits, like maybe if in possession of a thermal device or thermal drone no one in your group can have a weapon? No hunting for 24 hrs after flight? No trespass, obviously?
Can somebody cheat somehow? I suppose. Just like they could on a lot of other things.
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Post by welder on Jan 14, 2023 17:36:07 GMT -5
Do you have to have permission to fly a drone over private property?
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 14, 2023 18:02:01 GMT -5
Good luck finding a dead deer with a drone that does NOT have thermal capability. Pretty sure the Thermal would be a No Go! Definitely a no-go in Indiana at this time. I just think that the Indiana drone recovery guy isn't going to have much success by just using a drone to find dead deer during daylight hours -- unless it happens to die in a pasture.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 14, 2023 19:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by HuntMeister on Jan 14, 2023 20:20:15 GMT -5
Cost is stated on the website under the "get started" tab, $400.00 plus a per mile fuel charge if they have to drive over the allotted mileage. They discuss the legal issues of finding a live deer under the "legal" tab, basically they give you coordinates of the deer and you have to wait 14 days before using the info to pursue the deer. That is a long time to wait. Where is the law written you have wait 14 days? I found no IC stating that time frame! I have no idea Greg, I was just posting what they have published on their website...
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Post by welder on Jan 14, 2023 20:59:04 GMT -5
LOL! Well, here's another one: Can you shoot down a drone flying over your property?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 14, 2023 21:47:26 GMT -5
LOL! Well, here's another one: Can you shoot down a drone flying over your property? I don’t think it’s legal…..but it sure would be tempting!
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Post by genesis273 on Jan 14, 2023 21:57:09 GMT -5
I ran across one of that guy's videos. Pretty cool. I think the forbidding of the use of thermal imaging ( or just about anything ) to RECOVER a deer is for sure one of Indiana's dumbest laws. After all, what is the point of killing something and not recovering it if that can be avoided? Every year we propose a zillion changes to the game laws; how about tossing that one? Set some kind of reasonable limits, like maybe if in possession of a thermal device or thermal drone no one in your group can have a weapon? No hunting for 24 hrs after flight? No trespass, obviously? Can somebody cheat somehow? I suppose. Just like they could on a lot of other things. I'm sure that's part of the concern. Guys/gals cheating. But, I really think honest sportsman will be honest sportsman and the cheaters are going to cheat. The cheats are probably already using thermal Scopes, cameras, etc.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 15, 2023 7:53:48 GMT -5
I ran across one of that guy's videos. Pretty cool. I think the forbidding of the use of thermal imaging ( or just about anything ) to RECOVER a deer is for sure one of Indiana's dumbest laws. After all, what is the point of killing something and not recovering it if that can be avoided? Every year we propose a zillion changes to the game laws; how about tossing that one? Set some kind of reasonable limits, like maybe if in possession of a thermal device or thermal drone no one in your group can have a weapon? No hunting for 24 hrs after flight? No trespass, obviously? Can somebody cheat somehow? I suppose. Just like they could on a lot of other things. What other states in the MidWest allow thermal imaging for Deer hunting or Tracking?
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Post by greghopper on Jan 15, 2023 8:11:25 GMT -5
Looks like their legal statement has changed......Interesting! "After speaking to multiple Conservation Officers and legal experts, it has been determined that utilizing a drone to track a dead deer would not constitute a violation. The act of “Take” is already complete. The drone cannot be used in the effort to find a deer that has already been taken. If we find your deer and it has not expired yet, we will provide you with the information, and legally you cannot use this information to pursue the animal. We require that all customer sign a waiver stating that all information we provide to customer is for recovery efforts and NOT hunting or “Taking” efforts."
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Post by jjas on Jan 15, 2023 9:06:01 GMT -5
So instead of waiting 14 days before using the information to track a deer that is still alive. You can't use the information to track the deer @ all?
The whole deal seems like a waste of money to me...
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Post by greghopper on Jan 15, 2023 9:31:51 GMT -5
They won’t be in business long…. At least with deer recovery IMO
Don’t believe they done enough homework before starting the Business.
A Dog is still the Best option IMO
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Post by beermaker on Jan 15, 2023 12:04:29 GMT -5
LOL! Well, here's another one: Can you shoot down a drone flying over your property? I don’t think it’s legal…..but it sure would be tempting! There was an incident a few years ago south of Louisville where a man did shoot down a drone that was flying over his property. His teenage daughter and friends were in the back yard suntanning and the drone, allegedly, was flying over repeatedly and very slowly. The father took it out with a 12g. The drone owners showed up at the house and confronted him. He was armed with a pistol and informed them that they would be next if they didn't get off his property. They came back with an officer and he was issued some tickets, one of them being destruction of private property, and maybe taken to jail. If I remember correctly, discharging a weapon within city limits is the only charge that stuck. That father is a former sub-contractor of mine. He is what I would consider a very educated redneck. I would have paid good money to be in the courtroom to hear him give his account of the incident.
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Post by beermaker on Jan 15, 2023 12:09:06 GMT -5
You can search "drone shot down with shotgun" on YouTube and see a short interview with him.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 15, 2023 14:10:47 GMT -5
Do you have to have permission to fly a drone over private property? It would be some sort of trespassing in the State of Indiana I would think
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Post by greghopper on Jan 15, 2023 14:45:52 GMT -5
Do you have to have permission to fly a drone over private property? It would be some sort of trespassing in the State of Indiana I would think Rules for the state… The law also prohibits UAV operators from pursuing any kind of aerial activity on private land without first obtaining permission. If they do so, they could be charged with a class A misdemeanor.t.co/QszCnnr7sw
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 15, 2023 15:24:50 GMT -5
They won’t be in business long…. At least with deer recovery IMO Being prohibited from using thermal pretty much kills it for them. Body heat is pretty important when searching forested areas. There are probably not enough Amish crossbow hunters in Indiana to sustain their business anyway. Lol! Not to stereotype, but almost every client of the Ohio drone guy fits that description.
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