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Post by throbak on Dec 22, 2009 12:02:44 GMT -5
if you live where you hunt spend all spring an summer on food plots and habitat development for year round deer health .and then have some one from up north come in two weeks before season dump piles of food all over there x- no. of acres and draw the deer to the concentrated bait piles is just not rite and in no way should it be allowed . what would be the use of any thing else but bait piles???
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 22, 2009 15:55:21 GMT -5
if you live where you hunt spend all spring an summer on food plots and habitat development for year round deer health .and then have some one from up north come in two weeks before season dump piles of food all over there x- no. of acres and draw the deer to the concentrated bait piles is just not rite and in no way should it be allowed . what would be the use of any thing else but bait piles??? Throw that same thought into reverse, i hunt my own property, while my neighbor has the cash to plant X amount of acreage in food plots that keep the deer year round on his property.
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Post by vectrix on Dec 22, 2009 16:11:14 GMT -5
What if my friend dumps corn, I hunt over it and kill a buck. It shouldn't matter because the guy down the road planted clover in a field. Besides, DNR is always wrong and their rules are stupid and I think I'm right. I don't even know why we have rules, they are so hard to understand. I feel for you Buster...lol
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Post by throbak on Dec 22, 2009 18:36:26 GMT -5
BAITING IS A LAZY WAY TO DO THINGS if your neighbor has a bait pile you hunt over it kill a deer then you should be arrested
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 23, 2009 0:06:31 GMT -5
Wish i still had the video of me taking 133" 8 point, while he had his head in a half 55 gallon drum, sucking down some cleaned oats and corn mix, while i used my Wetherby 300 mag, at approx. 225 yards. This is a daily scenario where i hunt. This was also the last time that i remember seeing a decent buck at a baiting sight during legal hunting hours.
Just curious as to why in Indiana your not allowed to hunt over bait like you can with other critters such as dove, and ducks?
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Post by tickman1961 on Dec 23, 2009 10:40:54 GMT -5
BAITING IS A LAZY WAY TO DO THINGS if your neighbor has a bait pile you hunt over it kill a deer then you should be arrested It is illegal in this state period, and personally I would like it to stay that way. However, I refuse to judge anyone who kills game via legal methods. Bait does not guarantee anything and the concept of baiting takes more effort than setting up over a crop field.
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Post by jabba on Dec 23, 2009 15:37:08 GMT -5
Am I allowed to plant food plots on HNF property?
Jabba
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Post by indianahick on Dec 23, 2009 16:12:54 GMT -5
Baiting is illegal? Scents, calls, food plots are all forms of baiting. They are legal. Taking corn, salt blocks or some other form of bagged material and placing it in the woods is illegal baiting. Is it for the lazy? Some that would use that method could be considered as lazy, maybe. Others that DO NOT own their own property or have permission to cultivate food plots could be moved to a more equal level by changing the baiting laws. Which is not to say that the DNR is stupid, maybe a tad out of date. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to level the playing field as it were.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 23, 2009 16:49:39 GMT -5
The only "baiting" I have done is baiting for black bears while bowhunting black bears in Ontario - back when non-residents could hunt on their own and they had a spring bear season.
Why bait for bears in Ontario? That was the only logical way to hunt them if one wanted any chance at all in arrowing a bear. Trying to spot and stalk in the Ontario bush would be pretend bowhunting for bears. Good chance in getting lost where the next road north would be in Russia.
We had out 20 or so baits and I can tell you there is nothing "lazy" about running 20 bear baits. It is time and labor entensive.
I can't comment on deer baiting except to say " Baiting is a poor man's food plot".
I'm not really sure what the difference is in taking something in and sticking it the ground and killing a deer off it two weeks later when they come in to eat what has spouted AND taking something in for them to eat right now.
Deer harvest stats on baiting versus non-baiting shows it is not a lead pipe cinch to kill deer baiting much more that non-baiting.
Baiting does concern me in the facts of diseases, CWD, TB and from corn mold. All can be deadly to deer.
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Post by 5kirks on Dec 23, 2009 19:55:45 GMT -5
food plots don't have to be expensive, [maybe if you count your time] I enjoy an excuse to get be out there so my labor is free, I go to my local seed company [corn, beans, wheat] and get seed left over from the last year for free. I would think most any companys would be free as long as they know its going to be used for wildlife and not for profit. Otherwise I think it goes to waste [not positive on that though] anyway its worth a try go ask and see.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 23, 2009 22:05:23 GMT -5
food plots don't have to be expensive, [maybe if you count your time] I enjoy an excuse to get be out there so my labor is free, I go to my local seed company [corn, beans, wheat] and get seed left over from the last year for free. I would think most any companys would be free as long as they know its going to be used for wildlife and not for profit. Otherwise I think it goes to waste [not positive on that though] anyway its worth a try go ask and see. Good tip!
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Post by throbak on Dec 24, 2009 7:14:34 GMT -5
most swcd,s have free or very cheap seed also ,and and a lot of free advice and planning from the DC,s also a lot of money available to help with or in some cases eliminate the cost involved. but on the other hand it is easier to just dump a bag of corn ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mbogo on Dec 24, 2009 11:24:41 GMT -5
Anyone that makes a mineral site with the hopes of killing a deer over it during deer season is going to be sorely disappointed. Deer use of these sites from mid September to early March is severely limited to nonexistent. Besides that, even during the spring and summer months when they are using these sites heavily, bucks use them almost exclusively at night and about 75% of does do as well.
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Post by tenring on Dec 24, 2009 11:46:21 GMT -5
Ah Ha, you've read Clark McCready's master thesis on the salt study at Attebury haven't you? Nice graph on the deer use of a salt lick thrown in there for good measure!
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