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Post by ccdeer1960 on Dec 19, 2009 2:19:54 GMT -5
Leave it alone. You might as well do away with late archery if this was inacted upon.Next thing will be to start GUN SEASON on October 1
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Post by indianaboy on Dec 19, 2009 5:08:31 GMT -5
I think its hillarious when I see people post about not enough time with holidays and so on. This will probably rub some wrong but what true deer hunter doenst save back at least a few vacation days for season? ? I mean really if it is a true passion you are going to do everything you can to get in the woods. I am very very lucky to be able to take weeks off at a time during deer season and I understand the majority of people dont get the time I get to take off. For those that cant Im sorry about your luck but you potentially have 32 days or what ever during gun season to hunt. Whether you can make it out is your problem not the state of Indiana's. If gun season isnt enough get a freakin bow and hunt before gun season. Like I said if hunting is a true passion you will find time to get out there.
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Post by raporter on Dec 19, 2009 9:24:22 GMT -5
I think its hillarious when I see people post about not enough time with holidays and so on. This will probably rub some wrong but what true deer hunter doenst save back at least a few vacation days for season? ? I mean really if it is a true passion you are going to do everything you can to get in the woods. I am very very lucky to be able to take weeks off at a time during deer season and I understand the majority of people dont get the time I get to take off. For those that cant Im sorry about your luck but you potentially have 32 days or what ever during gun season to hunt. Whether you can make it out is your problem not the state of Indiana's. If gun season isnt enough get a freakin bow and hunt before gun season. Like I said if hunting is a true passion you will find time to get out there. Good post.
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Post by ccdeer1960 on Dec 20, 2009 7:41:21 GMT -5
Those who voted yes must be seeing alot more deer than I am,If they think the herd needs thinned out by extending gun season(muzzleloader is a gun). We have over 90 days in the field to hunt,like someone said if huntings your passion ,you'll find time to hunt. 38 years ago I picked up my first bow.Practiced every day,like someone who wanted to be the best they could be. When I was 15 my Dad took me to the Indiana State National field Archery compation. All my practice finally paid off, as I walked away with the State Championship. I've not killed any monster bucks but have taken a few i'm proud to have on my wall. I like to hunt the late archery season.After the deer have settled back down can be better than early archery.Its usually to hot and the deer are not moving like they are this time of year. I remember about 15 plus years ago when I lived in Milltown In. ,I would be sitting in my tree stand and here would come my neighbor walking through the woods ,back to the power lines with his 30-.06 .Here I am with a primative weapon and have to compete with a high powered rifle. How can a bowhunter compete with a weapon capiable of shooting 200 plus yards. We all dont own our own hunting ground and must rely on state property. I have a 5000 dollar sniper rifle, why dont we just open up a high powered rifle season during gun season. I can cut a match into at 100 yards almost every time. I know ,people say Indiana is to flat for High Powered Rifles,But I wouldnt miss. I don't want to see a high powered rifle season, but someone with a shotgun vs my HS Precision 338./ Same thing to me with a Bow vs Muzzleloader. I didnt get the deer I wanted this year ,but theres always next year. We just need to become better hunters in the time we have alotted to us. Anyway I voted no.
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Post by schall53 on Dec 20, 2009 8:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by kdog8173 on Dec 20, 2009 11:28:03 GMT -5
why not just extend firearm and do away with having to have two guns???a firearm is a firearm..what is it, is it just about the extra money for muzzleloaders and tags,,,my 2 cents
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Post by vectrix on Dec 20, 2009 19:15:37 GMT -5
I have only been on here a short time so maybe I'm wrong, but by looking back on several of these threads I have a question - Is Indiana or the DNR doing anything right with some of you guys? Does anyone just feel fortunate to have 32 days of firearms, 106 days of archery and more bonus tags than any one person could ever need? If it's not the OBR its whining about baiting laws, length of season, price of tags.....on and on. The rules are the rules plain and simple, if it's not long enough buy a bow. If it cost too much, get a side job. And the laws, well I guess you could move to Texas. Trust me, I am not a wealthy guy, I have 3 kids to feed but I don't complain about the $24. Thats a whole lot of fun for $24! When season is over it's over, sorry you don't feel fullfilled but guess what, it's over. Thats the law, all the whining in the world won't fix it. I'm done fussing over this issue, season is all but over and guess what, I'm happy! I turned in my vacation early, hunted hard and had a good year. My wife and kids knew it was coming and they supported my passion. Will I have a good year next year? Who knows, but I do know this. If I don't I sure as heck won't blame it on the DNR, length of season, lack of baiting, the OBR, global warming, tags too high or wife complaining. Good luck to all the rest of this 106 day long season I have to start getting ready for the Turkey season, after all we only have so long.
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Post by indianaboy on Dec 20, 2009 21:26:48 GMT -5
I have only been on here a short time so maybe I'm wrong, but by looking back on several of these threads I have a question - Is Indiana or the DNR doing anything right with some of you guys? Does anyone just feel fortunate to have 32 days of firearms, 106 days of archery and more bonus tags than any one person could ever need? If it's not the OBR its whining about baiting laws, length of season, price of tags.....on and on. The rules are the rules plain and simple, if it's not long enough buy a bow. If it cost too much, get a side job. And the laws, well I guess you could move to Texas. Trust me, I am not a wealthy guy, I have 3 kids to feed but I don't complain about the $24. Thats a whole lot of fun for $24! When season is over it's over, sorry you don't feel fullfilled but guess what, it's over. Thats the law, all the whining in the world won't fix it. I'm done fussing over this issue, season is all but over and guess what, I'm happy! I turned in my vacation early, hunted hard and had a good year. My wife and kids knew it was coming and they supported my passion. Will I have a good year next year? Who knows, but I do know this. If I don't I sure as heck won't blame it on the DNR, length of season, lack of baiting, the OBR, global warming, tags too high or wife complaining. Good luck to all the rest of this 106 day long season I have to start getting ready for the Turkey season, after all we only have so long. It is never ending around here. I usually come on here for a good laugh and thats about it. Some times I get caught up in the discussion but for the most part I just sit back and laugh. The sad thing is its this kind of stuff that isnt worth arguing about. We should just be happy we still have the freedom to hunt as much as we do. Some people are never satisfied. Never will be.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 20, 2009 22:42:40 GMT -5
It is all in what you want. Lots of good people on this site, differing opinions aren't a bad thing. I enjoy all the input, kind of a microcosm of life in general. Don't sit back and laugh, join the fray, just the internet.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2009 22:46:56 GMT -5
This is one of the few sites where EVERYONE can express their opinion on just about any given subject.
That can be everything including expanding the gun season or shortening it... it is the person's opinion and they are free to express it. You might not agree with it, but it still THEIR OPINION and nothing anyone else can say can change THEIR OPINION.
You may disagree with it, argue against it, debate it and even laugh at it but it is still THEIR OPINION and they are entitled to it. At least on here they are.
If you want longer season? Fine, state your opinion.
Want a shorter season? Fine, state your opinion.
Want baiting laws clarified? Fine, state your opinion.
I will not stifle opinions because some folks don't like others folks opinions.
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Post by Indyhunter on Dec 20, 2009 23:43:10 GMT -5
I'd vote for it, even if it was antlerless only. Whether extended a little further into December, or an early October weekend or two. ML only-antlerless only would be my vote without question. I'm guessing a lot of the people who are flat out against it are those who are retired or work part time (or hate work at all), or own their piece of hunting ground, or do not have regular family obligations that they chose to be a part of, or are the "purists" (example: the guys that say archers make up the 'true hunters' since they use real equipment such as 85% let off compound bows that send an arrow at 300'/second.) And it is always nice when your hunting spot is a few minutes away, not a couple hours away. It isn't always about being a "better hunter" (who couldn't be a 'better hunter' in some way?). And it isn't about killing a half dozen deer per year for a lot of people. Often, it is about opportunity. Seems to me people are worried someone else might kill their next years "big buck". If that's the case, then become a better hunter.
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Post by js2397 on Dec 21, 2009 7:55:55 GMT -5
I have only been on here a short time so maybe I'm wrong, but by looking back on several of these threads I have a question - Is Indiana or the DNR doing anything right with some of you guys? Does anyone just feel fortunate to have 32 days of firearms, 106 days of archery and more bonus tags than any one person could ever need? If it's not the OBR its whining about baiting laws, length of season, price of tags.....on and on. The rules are the rules plain and simple, if it's not long enough buy a bow. If it cost too much, get a side job. And the laws, well I guess you could move to Texas. Trust me, I am not a wealthy guy, I have 3 kids to feed but I don't complain about the $24. Thats a whole lot of fun for $24! When season is over it's over, sorry you don't feel fullfilled but guess what, it's over. Thats the law, all the whining in the world won't fix it. I'm done fussing over this issue, season is all but over and guess what, I'm happy! I turned in my vacation early, hunted hard and had a good year. My wife and kids knew it was coming and they supported my passion. Will I have a good year next year? Who knows, but I do know this. If I don't I sure as heck won't blame it on the DNR, length of season, lack of baiting, the OBR, global warming, tags too high or wife complaining. Good luck to all the rest of this 106 day long season I have to start getting ready for the Turkey season, after all we only have so long. I think you will find most of the hunters are happy with the deer mangement plan. Most however have some opinion of how to make it better. I have even seen you write that you would like to take the gun season out of the rut or shorten it. I do not take this as whining. The main reason for people wanting to lengthen the season is a push back against those who would want to shorten it. The off seasons are long and some of us have too much time during the day while we should be working but we are all pretty happy hunting in Indiana. There is no place else that I would want to live and if I was only allowed to hunt in one state it would be Indiana. Try not to get too upset if we disagree, I just enjoy the debate. Sometimes I even argue for something I am against just to reaffirm my reasons for opposing it.
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Post by raporter on Dec 21, 2009 8:12:12 GMT -5
This is one of the few sites where EVERYONE can express their opinion on just about any given subject. That can be everything including expanding the gun season or shortening it... it is the person's opinion and they are free to express it. You might not agree with it, but it still THEIR OPINION and nothing anyone else can say can change THEIR OPINION. You may disagree with it, argue against it, debate it and even laugh at it but it is still THEIR OPINION and they are entitled to it. At least on here they are. If you want longer season? Fine, state your opinion. Want a shorter season? Fine, state your opinion. Want baiting laws clarified? Fine, state your opinion. I will not stifle opinions because some folks don't like others folks opinions. And that is why this is the best hunting site anywhere. I also think it is called exercising your rights as an American. You see something wrong you try and get it corrected.
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Post by jabba on Dec 21, 2009 10:10:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I like Indiana's laws. I like the one buck rule. I like the abundance of deer we see and are allowed to take.
I wish I had more private ground to hunt, but I am pretty danged productive on public ground too.
I never even THOUGHT about extending the ML season till I ran across the thread here. And tossed in an oninion.
Indiana rocks. I wish we had more quail, grouse and rabbits. I wish I could hunt pheasants some. I wish I had time to bow hunt. (I will someday) Life is good, but never so good that a tweak here and there couldn;t make it better for me though.
I still have 2 days coming up in Atterbury. Dec 29th and 30th.
Jabba
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Post by racktracker on Dec 21, 2009 10:12:47 GMT -5
It is human nature to want more or better or ? . Discussion/debate of ideas is great
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Post by vectrix on Dec 21, 2009 11:15:35 GMT -5
Woody, would never ask you to stifle opinion, maybe name calling but not opinion. This ain't fox news and I'm not Obama. I also agree in fixing something that ain't right, but don't think this is one of those. I try to base my opinion off fact,such as herd numbers and neighboring states...etc.. not personal needs and lack of success. I'm not worried about someone killing "my big buck" heck that happens most years anyway. I have heard alot of guys throwing kids or youth into the mix to shore up their wants. Ok lets start a thread on an extended youth only season and see which one of us that voted no would be against that. Opinions are fine and always wanting more may be human nature but where is the end line. I truly feel that over half of the yes votes came out of frustration for a bad season. So what if they extend it next season and you still have a bad year? Would we then be arguing over needing to start firearms 2 weeks earlier for the "kids". I guess also, and keep in mind this is just my opinion, if there is that much disdain and feelings of unfairness for our game laws in a hunter, how does he act in the field? I have a pretty good buddy who is a CO tell me he feels there is probably some sort of violation for 40% of deer harvested. I guess to somehow meet in the middle on this thing I would say extending ML or any season would only make sense if they did away with bonus tags. So there I gave some, yes I'm human. Merry Christmas
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 21, 2009 11:21:57 GMT -5
I think its hillarious when I see people post about not enough time with holidays and so on. This will probably rub some wrong but what true deer hunter doenst save back at least a few vacation days for season? ? I mean really if it is a true passion you are going to do everything you can to get in the woods. I am very very lucky to be able to take weeks off at a time during deer season and I understand the majority of people dont get the time I get to take off. For those that cant Im sorry about your luck but you potentially have 32 days or what ever during gun season to hunt. Whether you can make it out is your problem not the state of Indiana's. If gun season isnt enough get a freakin bow and hunt before gun season. Like I said if hunting is a true passion you will find time to get out there. If it weren't a true passion, we wouldn't be on this site talking about this issue.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 21, 2009 11:44:27 GMT -5
Woody, would never ask you to stifle opinion, maybe name calling but not opinion. This ain't fox news and I'm not Obama. I also agree in fixing something that ain't right, but don't think this is one of those. I try to base my opinion off fact,such as herd numbers and neighboring states...etc.. not personal needs and lack of success. I'm not worried about someone killing "my big buck" heck that happens most years anyway. [glow=red,2,300]I have heard alot of guys throwing kids or youth into the mix to shore up their wants[/glow]. Ok lets start a thread on an extended youth only season and see which one of us that voted no would be against that. Opinions are fine and always wanting more may be human nature but where is the end line. I truly feel that over half of the yes votes came out of frustration for a bad season.[glow=red,2,300] So what if they extend it next season and you still have a bad year? Would we then be arguing over needing to start firearms 2 weeks earlier for the "kids".[/glow] I guess also, and keep in mind this is just my opinion, if there is that much disdain and feelings of unfairness for our game laws in a hunter, how does he act in the field? I have a pretty good buddy who is a CO tell me he feels there is probably some sort of violation for 40% of deer harvested. I guess to somehow meet in the middle on this thing I would say extending ML or any season would only make sense if they did away with bonus tags. So there I gave some, yes I'm human. Merry Christmas Actually i was the only one that stated that we should extend muzzy season into a youth season for 10 straight days. Also for someone that basis their thoughts on FACTS, you should already know, is during Youth Season, only youths are permitted to hunt. Therefore, regadless of how successfull my season is, i still don't hunt. With most kids being out of school this time of year, it would be an excellent opprotunity to get them into the woods. Thanks for trying to "twist" my opinions, and thoughts. Merry x-mas to and your family as well.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 21, 2009 13:49:21 GMT -5
There's more hunting time available already. Just buy a bow and some arrows, a few more accessories to taste, and join those of us who enjoy what's left of ARCHERY season, instead of crowding us off the calendar to make more room for guns.
Hunting doesn't always have to be LOUD! Nor does it have to be conducted with weapons that will kill stuff 300 yards away.
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Post by oneshot on Dec 21, 2009 15:41:09 GMT -5
No.
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