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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 10:00:52 GMT -5
Not sure what happened with the last thread but I'll ask the same question..... What happens to the youth season if this is approved? For details of the proposed changes see: www.in.gov/nrc/files/item_11_nrc_november_2012.pdfSince inception the Youth Season has always been in late September. However, the DNR Director could annually approve a different time. Of course, the bow hunters would not want the Youth Season in their season. So in what season should we put the youth? Or, should we put them in early September or the middle of January? 312 IAC 9-3-4 Season dates and bag limits Authority: IC 14-10-2-4; IC 14-22-2-6 Affected: IC 14-22 Sec. 4. (a) An individual must not take more than one (1) deer with each deer license. (b) The special youth deer season is two (2) consecutive days beginning on the Saturday immediately before October 1 or as approved annually by the director. Put the youth season the weekend before firearm opener. Much better chance of being successful...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 10:02:08 GMT -5
I'd be in favor of asking a consences on moving youth season to the second half of Oct. and making it a 3 day weekend.
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 10:05:11 GMT -5
Considering Indiana does not have a minimum age for hunters isnt youth season already the week before gun. And every week, every day, every minute of season already?
Or are you saying that they should allow only youths to hunt during that time and closing it down for the rest of hunters?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 10:09:50 GMT -5
Archery and xbow is should always be allowed during gun seasons but archers need to where orange.
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 10:13:12 GMT -5
So you are saying not to change the existing seasons .... just let youths hunt with whatever weapon they choose during that time. Correct?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 10:19:54 GMT -5
Wilk, its exactly the same that will happen if the vertical bow season is granted as planned. No difference. You'll have archers in orange with kids hunting with rifles. BTW, Ky has done this with no issues for years and also several days with ML and fall gun turkey hunting.
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 10:22:57 GMT -5
I am just trying to make sure what you are saying.
A proposal like that would get a lot of pushback from guys. Right or wrong .... a lot of pushback.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Dec 4, 2012 10:57:17 GMT -5
Archery and xbow is should always be allowed during gun seasons but archers need to where orange. Do they not already? I have been wearing my orange hat since gun season started.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 11:19:46 GMT -5
Considering Indiana does not have a minimum age for hunters isnt youth season already the week before gun. And every week, every day, every minute of season already? Or are you saying that they should allow only youths to hunt during that time and closing it down for the rest of hunters? They can NOT hunt with a firearm during that week before. Yes, give them a tiny little piece of prime time, not stuck when bugs, heat full foliage, lack of deer movement makes it tough for the kids. Of course this will NEVER happen as the bowhunter dominated groups want the pre-rut and rut all for themselves.. No kids with guns or crossbowers allowed....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 11:31:35 GMT -5
Wilk, IMO the only pushback from moving youth would be from the elitist and the groups they belong to. The majority of hunters see the value in youth seasons.
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Post by henson59 on Dec 4, 2012 11:45:16 GMT -5
In Illinois the youth season is the first weekend in Oct. Bow hunters are allowed to hunt the same weekend but must wear orange while hunting. I have never had an issue with it. Never seems to hurt any other bow hunters I know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 12:14:03 GMT -5
It is an advantage to be able to hunt Bucks in Velvet, and Bucks can be easier to pattern over food plots and Soybean Fields during September. The disadvantage would be increased hunting pressure over Soybean Fields, and other crop fields. Since Hunters in Urban areas in Indiana can already hunt in September, I think all of the hunters across the state should be able to also. Also, at least 20 different States have a September Bow Season. There are some advantages and disadvantages of September Bow Hunting. September can be a great time to hunt over food sources such as Soybean fields, and water sources..... One disadvantage of September Bow Hunting is increased hunting pressure especially in and around crop fields. I'm confused. Is it an advantage or disadvantage?
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Post by kodiak50 on Dec 4, 2012 12:25:52 GMT -5
Also, at least 20 different States have a September Bow Season.
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Just guessing but would a big percentage of the states with Sept. bow seasons be western states?
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Post by Rush on Dec 4, 2012 12:27:03 GMT -5
I am for a September season. And for youth, I'm all for giving them a piece of good hunting! Kids are the where the future is at, so lets get them started good!
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 12:41:56 GMT -5
Considering Indiana does not have a minimum age for hunters isnt youth season already the week before gun. And every week, every day, every minute of season already? Or are you saying that they should allow only youths to hunt during that time and closing it down for the rest of hunters? They can NOT hunt with a firearm during that week before. Yes, give them a tiny little piece of prime time, not stuck when bugs, heat full foliage, lack of deer movement makes it tough for the kids. Of course this will NEVER happen as the bowhunter dominated groups want the pre-rut and rut all for themselves.. No kids with guns or crossbowers allowed.... I got clarification as to what Tom was saying .... I guess I need to get clarification on what you are saying as well. Are you saying they should close down all other seasons and have the youth season only at that time? Or are you saying the same thing Tom said .... youth season to run concurrently as the ongoing seasons?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 12:57:49 GMT -5
They can NOT hunt with a firearm during that week before. Yes, give them a tiny little piece of prime time, not stuck when bugs, heat full foliage, lack of deer movement makes it tough for the kids. Of course this will NEVER happen as the bowhunter dominated groups want the pre-rut and rut all for themselves.. No kids with guns or crossbowers allowed.... I got clarification as to what Tom was saying .... I guess I need to get clarification on what you are saying as well. Are you saying they should close down all other seasons and have the youth season only at that time? Or are you saying the same thing Tom said .... youth season to run concurrently as the ongoing seasons? I have no problem with a "shared weekend", but ill bet the bowhunter dominated organized hunting groups won't like to share one bit.. Kids or no kids...
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Post by GS1 on Dec 4, 2012 16:17:56 GMT -5
Since Hunters in Urban areas in Indiana can already hunt in September, I think all of the hunters across the state should be able to also. Besides the odds of shooting a velvet wearing buck after September 15 being slim, at least in the southern part if the state, you do realize urban areas have different regulations for a reason, right? By your logic the entire state should be an urban area. 8 antlerless limits, earn a buck, extended season and all? I don't care when season comes in. I know when I and the people that hunt out farm are going to be hunting. I would like to see the youth weekend moved into November or at least later October and I don't even have any hunting-aged kids.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 4, 2012 18:20:06 GMT -5
I'd be in favor of asking a consences on moving youth season to the second half of Oct. and making it a 3 day weekend. Works for me.
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Post by 3ptbuck on Dec 4, 2012 18:58:05 GMT -5
I prefer things to stay how they are including the youth weekend. Personally I'm a lot more confident in getting on deer consistantly earlier in the season. I'd rather see youths get an early start than just a random weekend in bow season when there are more people out- especially now that I mainly hunt public land.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 19:30:30 GMT -5
I got clarification as to what Tom was saying .... I guess I need to get clarification on what you are saying as well. Are you saying they should close down all other seasons and have the youth season only at that time? Or are you saying the same thing Tom said .... youth season to run concurrently as the ongoing seasons? I have no problem with a "shared weekend", but ill bet the bowhunter dominated organized hunting groups won't like to share one bit.. Kids or no kids... Oh my gosh, no! That would be an absolute firestorm!! Can you just imagine what that would stir up?!? That weekend before gun season is usually THE best weekend of the deer season. Imagine suggesting letting a bunch of "gun slob" kids in there to ruin it! ~grin~
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