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Post by hornharvester on Dec 3, 2012 13:43:58 GMT -5
Lets try this again. I strongly oppose the new rule even with xbows included. I feel archery season is long enough now. h.h.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 3, 2012 13:53:32 GMT -5
No & no not even.
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Post by ms660 on Dec 3, 2012 14:10:03 GMT -5
I voted no as the way harvest limit numbers stand. Only way I would support this if the IDNR cuts way back on the amount of antlerless permit they allow now. I have no problem with when or what weapon you choose, but do have with the number of does that these days are legal to kill. I feel with the amount that fall to EHD and the number of does allowed to harvest and with those that just don't care, the population will reflect it. I don't know the reason why, but EHD has really not affected our deer numbers in my area until the outbreak of 06 I feel. I have heard it's always been around , but in the 40 years that I hunted deer, just past 5 or 6 have I seen the damage it does. Actually I never even noticed the effects of EHD until the 06. I surely hope it's not a sign of the future.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 3, 2012 14:26:09 GMT -5
No need for it IMO. I'd support a shorter archery season before a longer one.
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Post by tpdrhntr on Dec 3, 2012 15:11:43 GMT -5
no it long enough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 15:29:25 GMT -5
Not voting on this one, mainly because it's a lost cause with these attitudes.
Here's a prediction. The Sept. 15 opening day will be granted to vertical bows and exclude x-bows. It will soon be modified to include other dates and exclude x-bows in some of the prime dates such as the pre-rut period. Being that there is no organize resistance to it, it will be approved. X-bow guys get the shaft, so to speak.
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Post by oneshot on Dec 3, 2012 15:52:04 GMT -5
I voted yes.
I do think that X bows should be included though.
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Post by woody1071 on Dec 3, 2012 16:30:26 GMT -5
I voted "Yes". I think it would be a neat addition to the current season length. Personally I would rather add to the length of the season in January. It really doesn't matter to me if they include crossbows or not.
I don't think lengthening the season is a problem with deer numbers as long as the harvest limits are the same. I am with ms660's opinion that we currently harvest too many does. That has more to do with the bag limits than season length imo.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 17:34:58 GMT -5
There are already numerous states such as Kentucky and Missouri that open their Statewide Bow Seasons in September.
Also people in Urban Areas in Indiana can already Bow Hunt in September, so it was just a matter of time before the DNR started to consider having a Statewide September Bow Season.
There are some advantages and disadvantages of September Bow Hunting. September can be a great time to hunt over food sources such as Soybean fields, and water sources. September is also a great time to hunt Bucks and pattern Bucks in food sources, especially during the evening.
One disadvantage of September Bow Hunting is increased hunting pressure especially in and around Crops and Fields.
Most September Hunting occurs during the evening when the Temperatures are cooling. The last two weeks of September are basically the same as the first week of October when it comes to Temperatures, and Mosquitoes.
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Post by GS1 on Dec 3, 2012 18:18:14 GMT -5
There are some advantages and disadvantages of September Bow Hunting. September can be a great time to hunt over food sources such as Soybean fields, and water sources..... One disadvantage of September Bow Hunting is increased hunting pressure especially in and around crop fields. I'm confused. Is it an advantage or disadvantage? |
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Post by kevinhunter on Dec 3, 2012 18:20:14 GMT -5
I have always wanted to take a real nice buck in velvet and have it mounted!  Would not be very interested in the heat and bugs though while hunting! Oh well the Therma cell would be a must! I voted yes! |
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 3, 2012 19:00:45 GMT -5
Well heck let's have a season in June so some sick'o can shoot a full term doe ,so he can kill 2 at once??? Just saying the stupidity never end's. I understand why some of you member/outfitter's want longer season's. ( You make more money), but for the average Joe hunter??? I don't get it. If you can't get your deer in over a 3 month period, I really doubt 2 more week's is gonna help you.
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Post by woody1071 on Dec 3, 2012 23:24:11 GMT -5
Well... I just kind of like being out there. It is hard to get my wife to let me go out and sit in the woods without some kind of season in. But that's just me.
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Post by jjas on Dec 3, 2012 23:41:16 GMT -5
Not sure what happened with the last thread but I'll ask the same question.....
What happens to the youth season if this is approved?
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Post by schoolmaster on Dec 4, 2012 0:24:08 GMT -5
Since we are killing does now, we are already killing the potential of 1-3 fawns per doe. It makes no difference when they are killed.
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Post by span870 on Dec 4, 2012 5:31:27 GMT -5
No... But I have a different reason why. There is plenty of time for anyone to kill a deer as of now. Anyone that has voted yes and hunts on public land, have you taken into consideration your fellow hunter? The small game hunter.
How many times have you been out and complained about squirrel hunters walking in on you? How many times have you been deer hunting and wished that them darn rabbit hunters would take their dogs and go away? It is hard enough going to state property and dropping dogs down and trying to be courteous enough to find a spot where there are no deer hunters. Now you want to dip into running season. I know deer is king. Believe me I was there. Take into consideration about other hunters and other seasons. I try to be courteous to other guys now. Drive around for an hour looking for a place where there isn't any orange before I drop my dogs. Just how many months do you need?
As far as killing a velvet buck. I may be wrong but aren't most deer hard antlered and stripping of velvet by the 15th?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 8:54:36 GMT -5
I have always wanted to take a real nice buck in velvet and have it mounted! Would not be very interested in the heat and bugs though while hunting! Oh well the Therma cell would be a must! I voted yes! September 15 could be a little late for a velvet buck...... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 9:42:12 GMT -5
Gents, this is a trick move, not related to velvet bucks. Be aware that the dates will be attempted to be altered after the comment period is completed. Probably from the floor at the adoption hearing.
No matter how you stand on this issue you need to contact your local legislator and ask them to watch this process and make sure its done in a fair and normal manner.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 4, 2012 9:42:54 GMT -5
No... But I have a different reason why. There is plenty of time for anyone to kill a deer as of now. Anyone that has voted yes and hunts on public land, have you taken into consideration your fellow hunter? The small game hunter. How many times have you been out and complained about squirrel hunters walking in on you? How many times have you been deer hunting and wished that them darn rabbit hunters would take their dogs and go away? It is hard enough going to state property and dropping dogs down and trying to be courteous enough to find a spot where there are no deer hunters. Now you want to dip into running season. I know deer is king. Believe me I was there. Take into consideration about other hunters and other seasons. I try to be courteous to other guys now. Drive around for an hour looking for a place where there isn't any orange before I drop my dogs. Just how many months do you need? As far as killing a velvet buck. I may be wrong but aren't most deer hard antlered and stripping of velvet by the 15th? If I read right the DNR is considering moving the start of rabbit season to Nov 1 on all state owned ground. I assume this would mean the end to the Oct 1 start on the state reservoirs. h.h. |
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Post by cedarthicket on Dec 4, 2012 9:46:54 GMT -5
Not sure what happened with the last thread but I'll ask the same question..... What happens to the youth season if this is approved? For details of the proposed changes see: www.in.gov/nrc/files/item_11_nrc_november_2012.pdfSince inception the Youth Season has always been in late September. However, the DNR Director could annually approve a different time. Of course, the bow hunters would not want the Youth Season in their season. So in what season should we put the youth? Or, should we put them in early September or the middle of January?  312 IAC 9-3-4 Season dates and bag limits Authority: IC 14-10-2-4; IC 14-22-2-6 Affected: IC 14-22 Sec. 4. (a) An individual must not take more than one (1) deer with each deer license. (b) The special youth deer season is two (2) consecutive days beginning on the Saturday immediately before October 1 or as approved annually by the director. |
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Would not be very interested in the heat and bugs though while hunting! Oh well the Therma cell would be a must! 
