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Post by hornzilla on Aug 15, 2014 15:01:37 GMT -5
Drivers are not wired right. Believe me or ask my wife. It's a love and a desire. Tony will take a little time and get his head straight. Then if there's no charges. He WILL be in a car again next year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 17:21:36 GMT -5
If that happened to me I can't really say what Id do, but my guy instinct tells me I'd be done with racing. Not sure how you could ever shake that. Hope he can. Here is a question to compare it too... If you ever (God forbid) accidentally killed someone in a hunting situation, would you hunt again? Explain your definition of accident !!! I you aim a gun and pull the trigger that's no accident !!! That's a incident...and charges should follow. Let's say a guy in a cammo suit jumps out in front of the deer you are shooting at.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 15, 2014 17:48:37 GMT -5
Explain your definition of accident !!! I you aim a gun and pull the trigger that's no accident !!! That's a incident...and charges should follow. Let's say a guy in a cammo suit jumps out in front of the deer you are shooting at. Shouldn't be a accident if the guy is following the law and wearing his orange.... If your Bow hunting most shot are under 40 yrd so you should/will see him!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 17:53:34 GMT -5
Let's say your tree stand gives way just as you are squeezing the trigger and causes your shot to astray and hit someone on a neighboring farm.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 15, 2014 18:45:03 GMT -5
Let's say your tree stand gives way just as you are squeezing the trigger and causes your shot to astray and hit someone on a neighboring farm. Does it ricochet first?
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Post by swilk on Aug 15, 2014 18:51:16 GMT -5
I think there are many circumstances that could lead to an accident while hunting.
Many. Many. Many.
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Post by swilk on Aug 15, 2014 18:52:34 GMT -5
Even complete and utter stupidity could be an accident.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 15, 2014 19:17:19 GMT -5
Let's say your tree stand gives way just as you are squeezing the trigger and causes your shot to astray and hit someone on a neighboring farm. True accident ..... Some what same as Tony is dealing with!!! No one intend to hurt anyone .
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Post by span870 on Aug 15, 2014 19:27:50 GMT -5
If that happened to me I can't really say what Id do, but my guy instinct tells me I'd be done with racing. Not sure how you could ever shake that. Hope he can. Here is a question to compare it too... If you ever (God forbid) accidentally killed someone in a hunting situation, would you hunt again? Explain your definition of accident !!! I you aim a gun and pull the trigger that's no accident !!! That's a incident...and charges should follow. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by 36fan on Aug 15, 2014 22:32:07 GMT -5
Let's say a guy in a cammo suit jumps out in front of the deer you are shooting at. Shouldn't be a accident if the guy is following the law and wearing his orange.... If your Bow hunting most shot are under 40 yrd so you should/will see him!!! For arguments sake, the guy isn't wearing his hunter orange. Yes he broke the law, and he's dead now. It is classified as an accident even though the dead guy was negligent. No one intended to hurt anyone.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 16, 2014 10:09:53 GMT -5
Shouldn't be a accident if the guy is following the law and wearing his orange.... If your Bow hunting most shot are under 40 yrd so you should/will see him!!! For arguments sake, the guy isn't wearing his hunter orange. Yes he broke the law, and he's dead now. It is classified as an accident even though the dead guy was negligent. No one intended to hurt anyone. When you aim and pull the trigger at a camo object you are a negligent hunter!!! The Deer I seen and hunted are BROWN!!! Not sure why someone would be shooting at camo object..... WoW
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 10:33:16 GMT -5
Ok, then he's wearing deer skin. I believe you may be taking these analogous scenarios a tad literally. The point is, Tony Stewart apparently ran into someone he could not see well enough to avoid...if it was an accident (I believe it was) If someone made a dumb mistake and jumped into your shooting lane in a hunting situation, and you couldn't avoid it, would you be able to hunt again? That's all I meant. Obviously, that's unlikely....
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 16, 2014 21:02:33 GMT -5
Angry or not, only a fool would leave his car before the safety crew arrived if the car wasn't on fire. I saw this story elsewhere, and I can't believe the number of jackasses who think Stewart hit him on purpose. Really a young man looses his life and you want to call him a fool. Now that's class. Also I never did say anywhere that I thought it was on purpose. Look at the players and look at the history of the players. I think it was a scare tactics that went All Wrong. This never had to happen. Like I said a young man lost his life and another one will have to deal with it the rest of his. I'm done with this topic. Like I said in first post I try to avoid this kind. I have been around this sport all my life and it's a sad day for everyone. No one will win in the end of this. I stand by my opinion, and nowhere did I say anything about you or your post. Loosen your panties.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 16, 2014 21:21:15 GMT -5
For arguments sake, the guy isn't wearing his hunter orange. Yes he broke the law, and he's dead now. It is classified as an accident even though the dead guy was negligent. No one intended to hurt anyone. When you aim and pull the trigger at a camo object you are a negligent hunter!!! The Deer I seen and hunted are BROWN!!! Not sure why someone would be shooting at camo object..... WoW You pull the trigger, YOU are responsible for where that bullet goes. Period.
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Post by firstwd on Aug 16, 2014 21:40:49 GMT -5
Look at it this way, Met. If you are driving down a busy road, someone steps off the sidewalk right into the side of your car, you hit them and the die of those injuries, would you be able to drive again?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 23:25:21 GMT -5
Yes, but driving as transportation is not a hobby or sport. I think it would be harder to decide to get behind the wheel of a race car again, or go back to hunting if I'd been involved in an accident like that, even if I was blameless. I hope I'll never find out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 23:27:08 GMT -5
When you aim and pull the trigger at a camo object you are a negligent hunter!!! The Deer I seen and hunted are BROWN!!! Not sure why someone would be shooting at camo object..... WoW You pull the trigger, YOU are responsible for where that bullet goes. Period. So then, are you saying that if you hit someone standing on a racetrack when you are behind the wheel and foot on pedal are you responsible, period?
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Post by featherduster on Aug 17, 2014 4:51:39 GMT -5
Here is what needs to be said.
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Post by swilk on Aug 17, 2014 7:55:07 GMT -5
Now that is an interesting opinion. Period.
Unimaginative or incapable? Of seeing all the possibilities in this world that is. Very few things are black and white.
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Post by 36fan on Aug 19, 2014 12:06:59 GMT -5
For arguments sake, the guy isn't wearing his hunter orange. Yes he broke the law, and he's dead now. It is classified as an accident even though the dead guy was negligent. No one intended to hurt anyone. When you aim and pull the trigger at a camo object you are a negligent hunter!!! The Deer I seen and hunted are BROWN!!! Not sure why someone would be shooting at camo object..... WoW Let's try this a different approach: You are hunting from a tree stand, in the middle of a 500 acre tract of private property, no one else has permission to be there except you, the owner. A deer comes into your shooting lane and you fire making a perfect double lung hit. Your bullet passes through the deer and hits someone on the ground wearing a ghillie suit 50 yds past the deer. You stumble on his body while dragging your deer out. The follow up investigation shows you did you did everything right, and this hypothetical person is dead because of their own negligence. While traveling through the deer, the bullet deflected off of a rib and changed the trajectory just enough to carry the bullet another 50 yds. You didn't aim at him, you shot at a downward angle towards the ground. You had the property posted, properly identified your target, had a solid back drop, and kept your finger off the trigger until you were ready to pull it. They did something stupid and broke multiple laws that resulted in them loosing their life and you having to live with it for the rest of yours. Could you emotionally remove yourself enough climb into that deer stand again? Could you shoot at a deer again? Could you bring yourself to even pick up a firearm again? Would you be business as usual the next day, or would you withdraw from your family and friends? Do you do the "what if" scenarios? What if I had shot an instant sooner or later...what if I had let this deer walk...what if I had gone to a different stand...what if I would've found him sooner, could I have saved him from dieing on my property...what if... While this scenario isn't plausible, it is possible ... and God forbid that anything like this ever actually happens to anyone.
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