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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 17:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by hornzilla on Nov 23, 2014 17:20:01 GMT -5
Not what I learned when I took a dog killer to court. And definitely not what the judge or the laws though. Forgive me if I doubt your claim as this is the INTERNET and everything here is fact ..LOL shooting a dog for walking onto your property different than what I posted anyways .And at that point I will step away since a dog is one of the most destructive animals we have next to a free roaming cat .Dog and Cat lovers always get all defensive when it boils down to them taking care of what belongs to them .It is always others fault when bad things happen and the judge said this or that . SSS or call the sheriff either way the ptroblem animals go away .Pt owners take resposibility for you animals and you and the neighbors will live happily ever after . Every one can do as they wish. I was just pointing out that the dog DOES have more rights than most will ever know. Also when it ends up in court and the shooter ends up with a criminal charge that can keep them from buying a firearm it might not be worth it. Do as you wish. I hope you would think about it first. It could change your life.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 23, 2014 17:20:43 GMT -5
Just because a dog is running or hunting does not mean it is running deer. I would be very careful shooting a dog of a hunting breed. You guys might not believe it but I have known guys over the years who were serious enough about there Beagles, Bird dogs and Coonhounds that they would kill for their dogs. Is killing over a dead dog justified? No its not but I think you are asking for trouble and the potential for being fired back on is a possibility when you go to shooting other peoples dogs.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 23, 2014 17:22:34 GMT -5
Just because a dog is running or hunting does not mean it is running deer. I would be very careful shooting a dog of a hunting breed. You guys might not believe it but I have known guys over the years who were serious enough about there Beagles, Bird dogs and Coonhounds that they would kill for their dogs. Is killing over a dead dog justified? No its not but I think you are asking for trouble and the potential for being fired back on is a possibility when you go to shooting other peoples dogs.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2014 17:23:53 GMT -5
Just because a dog is running or hunting does not mean it is running deer. I would be very careful shooting a dog of a hunting breed. You guys might not believe it but I have known guys over the years who were serious enough about there Beagles, Bird dogs and Coonhounds that they would kill for their dogs. Is killing over a dead dog justified? No its not but I think you are asking for trouble and the potential for being fired back on is a possibility when you go to shooting other peoples dogs. Yep.....Burn your Barn, Shoot your live stock and so on!!!!
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 17:24:33 GMT -5
Here's a brilliant idea...If an owner doesn't want their dog shot.....keep the dang dog penned up....period dot dot
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 17:29:42 GMT -5
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Post by GS1 on Nov 23, 2014 17:29:42 GMT -5
I have a 5 year old who is scared to death of dogs. One morning as we pulled into where I park, one of the usual running mutts was standing there. No amount of convincing that the dog was friendly was going to get him out of the truck until it was light enough to see that the dog was gone. That will never happen again on my ground.
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Post by hunthard4 on Nov 23, 2014 17:37:12 GMT -5
How would one know if you did shoot a dog?I have never had the problem and probably wouldn't but understand when dogs cause a problem with the owners not caring, it can be frustrating. If it came down to it I'm sure whoever shot a dog would keep his or her mouth shut.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 17:39:05 GMT -5
I have no bearing on my neighbor putting out a pile of corn, but I still can't shoot deer going to it can I? Well, if your neighbor can simply place corn out on their property and keep you from lawfully using your own property, then I'd say that you have a case.
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 17:39:31 GMT -5
I try very hard to avoid getting rid of running dogs...even to the point of the enth degree...but after time and time and time again there comes a point where decisions have to made....SSS
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 17:42:43 GMT -5
Not what I learned when I took a dog killer to court. Was your dog on property where it was not permitted to be? If so, why?
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 17:49:34 GMT -5
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Post by hornzilla on Nov 23, 2014 17:49:34 GMT -5
How would one know if you did shoot a dog?I have never had the problem and probably wouldn't but understand when dogs cause a problem with the owners not caring, it can be frustrating. If it came down to it I'm sure whoever shot a dog would keep his or her mouth shut. In my case. I simply went off the last signal from the tracking color. A call to the State Police. A call to the local CO. And help from the ITDA. I had a very simple case in the eyes of the law. We pushed to case for all it was worth. I lost a very valuable hound. I was compensated in court. But most importantly I made the gentleman (I use that word loosely) think about what he did. He wrote a check. He did probation. He has a criminal charge.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 23, 2014 17:55:52 GMT -5
Good for you hornzilla.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 23, 2014 17:58:55 GMT -5
Oh my.... If we could just get shooting dogs, the OBR, crossbows, bait piles, spotlighting , leasing and high powered rifles all in one thread we could REALLY have something to argue about ...
We are watching this one folks...
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Post by hunthard4 on Nov 23, 2014 17:59:41 GMT -5
Well why was your dog shot and killed? Just out of curiosity.
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 18:00:55 GMT -5
How would one know if you did shoot a dog?I have never had the problem and probably wouldn't but understand when dogs cause a problem with the owners not caring, it can be frustrating. If it came down to it I'm sure whoever shot a dog would keep his or her mouth shut. In my case. I simply went off the last signal from the tracking color. A call to the State Police. A call to the local CO. And help from the ITDA. I had a very simple case in the eyes of the law. We pushed to case for all it was worth. I lost a very valuable hound. I was compensated in court. But most importantly I made the gentleman (I use that word loosely) think about what he did. He wrote a check. He did probation. He has a criminal charge. I'd like more details...So your dog was running on someone else's property without permission from the landowner, disappeared, and the guy was convicted of a crime for killing your dog based on a GPS signal? ... Highly doubt that..gotta be more to it.. I've had the same issue and the Sheriff flat out said " I'd get rid of the dogs"..I never did, kept trying to convince the neighbor how urgent it was to keep his dogs from harassing wildlife on my private property where they had no permission to roam..to this day I still am working with my neighbor, even though her head is thicker than granite, I want a peaceful solution, but my patience are wearing thin..We have a serious problem in America these days with Irresponsible Pet owners...NOT Hunters...The problem is the Dog Owners who are the most irresponsible group we hunters have to deal with today....it's unreal how many dog's runnignloose I have encountered this year hunting...it get's worse every year..
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2014 18:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 23, 2014 18:12:45 GMT -5
Dog owners should keep there dogs on their property I agree Here is a quote from an article "Last year in Union County, multiple complaints were made about pet dogs that were shot or went missing during deer season. Indiana Conservation Officers would like to remind all residents that shooting or killing a dog is a serious crime. Indiana Code 35-46-3-12 specifies that maiming or killing a dog is a class D Felony punishable by up to 3 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Even if a dog wanders onto someone’s private property while they are hunting, it is still a crime to shoot the dog Here is the full article www.journalgazette.net/article/20130929/BLOGS01/130929297.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 18:13:02 GMT -5
I only went coon hunting once in my life, and it was with a coworker and his Walker coonhound. That dog was awesome -- never ran trash, and would circle in about a 100-yard loop forward of us and come back. It never ventured far enough from us to worry about him leaving property we had permission on, and knew how to work a coon. Dogs that take off running for the hills are the problem, as they have no understanding of property lines.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 18:59:44 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Nov 23, 2014 18:59:44 GMT -5
Curious about the case myself hornzilla.... I assume the man at some point and time admitted to killing the dog?
Without an eyewitness or a confession I see no way a person can get in trouble for shooting a dog on their property.
But most guys can't keep their mouthes shut when they do such a thing..
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 19:03:05 GMT -5
Yes that story describes the situation and an account of what transpired. That doesn't make the shooter guilty, I'd say he was justified. They'd have a hard time convicting anyone in that circumstance in the story.
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