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Post by esshup on Mar 23, 2022 9:44:32 GMT -5
Remember a while back when we were talking about hunters that were pee poor shots and I said I would love to see a mandatory proficiency test for hunters and that there was something like that in Europe? Well on another forum I am on 2 guys from Europe chimed in and said that there was something like that over there. One was from Finland, another was from Sweden.
"In Norway there is a mandatory course and shooting test to become a "hunter". Hunting large-game requires an annual shooting test of 30 rounds at a target (to show that you can hit what you are aiming at) and then for each weapon you will use for hunting, you also have to shoot at relevant animal silhouette targets (to show that you know where to hit the animal you are hunting with the weapon you are carrying, and that the weapon is sighted-in correctly). The Norwegian large-game consists of reindeer, bear and moose."
The guy from Finland said they have basically the same thing over there, but you have to qualify every 3 years.
I know that wouldn't put an end to the wounding and not recovering the game here, but that just might lessen the incidences of it. I am all for it.
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Post by bigbuckd on Mar 23, 2022 9:53:47 GMT -5
No thanks. I would rather deal with bad shooters than more bad government controls.
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Post by boonechaser on Mar 23, 2022 9:57:22 GMT -5
My question is who would do the tests? IDNR is already under staffed and short on CO's. To implement a testing system would require a good bit of money to fund I would suspect. Hunter's in general are already in a up roar over recent license fee increases and additional increases would be needed to fund a testing program.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 23, 2022 9:59:26 GMT -5
My question is who would do the tests? IDNR is already under staffed and short on CO's. To implement a testing system would require a good bit of money to fund I would suspect. Hunter's in general are already in a up roar over recent license fee increases and additional increases would be needed to fund a testing program. It would be a huge under taking in this state
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Post by titanium700 on Mar 23, 2022 9:59:40 GMT -5
Nope. No way. That’s stupid. If Joe Shmoe can’t hit a deer that’s his problem……the deer lives another day. If he wounds it, he needs to learn tracking abilities.. Totally against something else being regulated. Good grief.
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Post by tine-n-spur on Mar 23, 2022 10:35:52 GMT -5
I already have an expert marksmanship badge issued by US ARMY.Should be sufficient.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Mar 23, 2022 10:54:48 GMT -5
Indiana would become the liberal laughing state in the country.
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Post by oldhoyt on Mar 23, 2022 11:31:09 GMT -5
Great idea!!
Come to think of it, in this mandatory class they should include a section on relieving one's self in the woods, so hunters can prove they know how to wipe their a**.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 23, 2022 11:39:33 GMT -5
Nooooooooo… thank you very much.
My M1 Expert rating should be grandfathered in. 😉
IMO - Most hunting misses and dings are from ill advised shots, not necessarily poor shooting.
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Post by sculver7 on Mar 23, 2022 12:20:51 GMT -5
This sounds like a bad idea. Government regulation or any regulation for that matter would only cause bigger issues just like with everything else.
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Post by firstwd on Mar 23, 2022 12:31:18 GMT -5
An easier idea would be to use one of Alaska's rules and make drawing blood, recovered animal or not, burns your tag. It would still be difficult to enforce, but repeat "offenders" should be fairly easy to catch.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 23, 2022 12:35:26 GMT -5
An easier idea would be to use one of Alaska's rules and make drawing blood, recovered animal or not, burns your tag. It would still be difficult to enforce, but repeat "offenders" should be fairly easy to catch. There would a lot of confessing on FaceBook! 😉
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Post by esshup on Mar 23, 2022 23:45:39 GMT -5
An easier idea would be to use one of Alaska's rules and make drawing blood, recovered animal or not, burns your tag. It would still be difficult to enforce, but repeat "offenders" should be fairly easy to catch. Especially with all the social media dummies out there.
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Post by steiny on Mar 24, 2022 11:28:25 GMT -5
Don't like the idea. No more new rules. I'm really not a fan of hunter ed requirement either, for the fact that it probably prevents a few kids from hunting.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 24, 2022 11:40:37 GMT -5
Don't like the idea. No more new rules. I'm really not a fan of hunter ed requirement either, for the fact that it probably prevents a few kids from hunting. Yep…. I agree!
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Post by firstwd on Mar 24, 2022 15:15:57 GMT -5
Don't like the idea. No more new rules. I'm really not a fan of hunter ed requirement either, for the fact that it probably prevents a few kids from hunting. Yep…. I agree! What makes you guys think the hunter ed requirement prevents kids from hunting?
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 24, 2022 15:48:06 GMT -5
Here's an amazing concept, that would accomplish the same exact thing without any cost to the state...it won't hit them all but it would hit a ton.
Parents, Grand Parents don't let anyone hunt without proper training and teaching. Most bad shots have been bad shots since they were handed or allowed to hunt with a weapon.
I know foreign concept to many....but proper parenting and leadership would accomplish much of what people want the government to do.
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Post by jager on Mar 24, 2022 16:02:09 GMT -5
When I took my kids it was a 40 minute trip each way, two days. The instructor was great, but didn’t teach them any more than what I had already taught them. My daughter still has never hunted, but I didn’t want to have to do it again if she decided to. I’m not saying that the hunter ed requirement is bad, but it probably does prevent some kids from hunting. Some parents either don’t have the time, or the desire. My dad is obsessed with fishing, but has never hunted a day in his life. Some parents aren’t willing to go through the process. I was lucky enough that I didn’t have to so I was able to go without it.
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Post by firstwd on Mar 24, 2022 18:31:22 GMT -5
When I took my kids it was a 40 minute trip each way, two days. The instructor was great, but didn’t teach them any more than what I had already taught them. My daughter still has never hunted, but I didn’t want to have to do it again if she decided to. I’m not saying that the hunter ed requirement is bad, but it probably does prevent some kids from hunting. Some parents either don’t have the time, or the desire. My dad is obsessed with fishing, but has never hunted a day in his life. Some parents aren’t willing to go through the process. I was lucky enough that I didn’t have to so I was able to go without it. That isn't a hunter ed issue. Hunter Ed isn't going away. Just look at other states, some cut off dates are back in the 40s. Personally, I would like to see the limit of 3 apprentice licenses for youth eliminated and let anyone under 18 have one. At the age of 18, if you have already used 3 or more apprentice licenses, hunter ed would be required.
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Post by jjas on Mar 24, 2022 19:29:40 GMT -5
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